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#1 vtistu

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Posted 16 April 2014 - 11:40 PM

So I had my 2003 cl9 remapped today. Many thought it wasn't possible, but believe me it is!
I'll keep the review short
DO IT

after b16, k20 and f20 the k24 was, well disappointing. Lazy, slow and pointless vtec.
My biggest grip was the vtec 'lag', followed by hitting the limiter, changing and being out back out of the power, like changing two gears at once.

This, thankfully, has gone.
Much revier, pulls harder midrange, doesn't lose power, bang change gear and pulls more. Perfect.
Much like my Honda's of past.
At first I didn't think there was much of a difference, when I hit the a and B roads on the way back I couldn't stop smiling. So much so I missed my turning, by several miles!!!!!

For £300, 2 bolts and 1 hour I challenge you to find a mod which has more impact and value for money.

Thanks to ukcl9 and well done to littlebro for this product.
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#2 Stevearcade

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Posted 17 April 2014 - 06:55 AM

Great to hear!


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Posted 17 April 2014 - 06:57 AM

Nice work pal. Where did you get this done by?
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#4 ukcl9

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Posted 17 April 2014 - 07:04 AM

littlebo reflash is done via me.lol.

glad your happy with the reflash.

and thanks for your patience.
k20/k24 reflasher.Test ECU available.Click on the reflash thread
http://typeaccord.co...remap-test-ecu/

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Posted 17 April 2014 - 07:54 AM

Good to know! For the mod, did the car have to be present, or could the ECU be shipped and returned?


Under-steer is when the front of the car hits the wall and over-steer is when the rear of the car hits the wall.

Power is how fast you hit the wall and torque is how much of the wall you take with you.


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Posted 17 April 2014 - 07:58 AM

Is the CL9 the 2.4 Type S, 190bhp standard? Or are you talking about the Euro R?



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Posted 17 April 2014 - 08:20 AM

Speak to Littlebo or UKCL9, I believe they can offer various maps for different ranges of Honda Engines.


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Posted 17 April 2014 - 08:33 AM

you can send me your ecu in the post

yes k24a3 cl9 type s or ex NOT euro R

Edited by ukcl9, 17 April 2014 - 08:35 AM.

k20/k24 reflasher.Test ECU available.Click on the reflash thread
http://typeaccord.co...remap-test-ecu/

#9 vtistu

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Posted 17 April 2014 - 08:37 AM

Good to know! For the mod, did the car have to be present, or could the ECU be shipped and returned?


I'm localish to ukcl9 so I took my car to him. Turns out there's some awesome driving roads I never knew about!
Speak to ukcl9. I think you can post to him and have it back next day ( post Monday, remapped Tuesday and returned, arrives Wednesday)

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Posted 17 April 2014 - 08:40 AM

Is the CL9 the 2.4 Type S, 190bhp standard? Or are you talking about the Euro R?


K24 is the uk type s cl9. the accord type r cl7 uses a k20 similar to the dc5 with 220bhp

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Posted 17 April 2014 - 08:45 AM

Without dyno charts this is a little meaningless...



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Posted 17 April 2014 - 08:55 AM

How?
I'm merely reporting my experience and anyone with a k24 should be able to relate to this.

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Posted 17 April 2014 - 09:09 AM

Not necessarily Jon. It's an NA map so the power/torque is never going to go up massively. What's key to the K24 is evening out power/torque across the range and not having the gaps in power that become very apparent after owning one for a while. If this is fixed, it will be instantly noticeable on a road test. Unless of course you're playing the numbers game and want to play BHP/Torque willy waving competitions with other car enthusiasts down the pub  ;) .

 

I've seen videos somewhere online between stock K24s and K24s running Littlebo's map. Just demonstrating acceleration in overtaking type scenarios, rolling start, 3-2-1-go type road running on the motorway. The mapped car pulled away very nicely over the stock motor. Not wholly scientific, but a nice example of a real road condition.


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Posted 17 April 2014 - 10:20 AM

i will ask littlebo to post some dyno graphs but.but some can be found here.post 20 on.look at the red bhp bottom line vs the green top line.look at 5600-6100.massive improvement.

jon_G might only be interested in bhp number.but that is only half the reflash.the other half is no more dbw lag.and massive improvment in drivability.no more waiting forever for vtec.and it only lasting 2 seconds.its not just about bhp numbers,but dyno graphs are nice to have,of your own car.i will dyno mine at some point

http://www.tsxclub.c...d-tested-2.html

Edited by ukcl9, 17 April 2014 - 10:55 AM.

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k20/k24 reflasher.Test ECU available.Click on the reflash thread
http://typeaccord.co...remap-test-ecu/

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Posted 17 April 2014 - 10:24 AM

Reckon you can do much with my 2L triptronic?   ;)



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Posted 17 April 2014 - 10:30 AM

i think littlebo can.but its not much.i know he can't do the 2L manuel.pm him.
k20/k24 reflasher.Test ECU available.Click on the reflash thread
http://typeaccord.co...remap-test-ecu/

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Posted 17 April 2014 - 11:27 AM

Isn't reporting how great it is the same day you had it - and telling others to 'DO IT' - a little pre-emptive? Your not the first, I've seen it many times from diesel owners. It will be interesting to see what you think after a couple of months though.

 

More cautious K24 owners should relate better to the suggestion of this remap if something more objective (such as a dyno graph) was to become available, and I'm surprised anyone would get a remap without seeing this evidence first.

 

It definitely isn't about willy-waving... quite the opposite, I've seen some really shoddy remap results where clearly the main objective was to maximise peak power at the expense of a smooth power delivery, which would effectively ruin a road car. Not saying this is the case here, but if someone wants to use the forum to sell remaps then why aren't they sticking up graphs?


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Posted 17 April 2014 - 11:52 AM

Why?

Check the post, do the research like I did, speak to people that have had it done, watch the videos, talk to littlebro.

Dyno graphs are available

http://www.tsxclub.c...d-tested-2.html

Everybody knows you can't flash a 2003 k24, until now, as I'm only the second in the country, ukcl9 was the first. But ask littlebro how many others he's done.

Did you read my post properly. I say DO IT, as now my k24 lives up to the reputation of all the other Hondas I have owned.
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Posted 17 April 2014 - 12:50 PM

littlebo has done over 200 cl9 reflashes world wide.ive done nearly 1000 miles on mine and would not want to go back to stock.its hard to explain the postives of this reflash to some one who does'nt own a cl9....
k20/k24 reflasher.Test ECU available.Click on the reflash thread
http://typeaccord.co...remap-test-ecu/

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Posted 17 April 2014 - 12:57 PM

littlebo has done over 200 cl9 reflashes world wide.ive done nearly 1000 miles on mine and would not want to go back to stock.its hard to explain the postives of this reflash to some one who does'nt own a cl9....

Why... are you suggesting we're too stupid?

 

Proper evidence and proper, unbiased testimonials are things that anyone can accept, surely?


Edited by Jon_G, 17 April 2014 - 01:13 PM.