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Anything else above a stage 2 remap?

burbleboy

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Hi,

Just got pumped tonight of a VW Passat and I can just loose my mates BMW 320d (remap unknown as its too quick for standard 150bhp)

I have a Premier Tuning Stage 2 remap done and was wondering if there were any other power upgrades other than the expensive and unknown Hybrid setup?
 
Those E46 150 320d go to around 195bhp and are lighter than the Accord (did one a couple of weekends ago). Your Accord will have more torque though which is why you're getting away.

Depends what the Passat was, but again they're very tunable.

I would bet money you are losing power with that induction kit - swap it back for the standard airbox and Honda filter (trust me).
 
I knew someone would nail me for that induction kit :)

I like the sound off it when accelerating from 1500rpm - 2500 rpm but after that it's nothing. I suppose your right :(

If I swopped back to original filter and got custom cat back exhaust, would that see any gains or does the remap....stick to the map...so to speak?

Basically looking to get just over 200bhp out of it
 
Stock airbox and filter, have the intercooler reworked by a radiator specialist for better internal flow (avoid cheap aftermarket fmic) and I can tweak the map for 200bhp yes. Exhaust won't give you much if anything and don't delete the cat.

Just put your airbox back in and try again with your mates Beemer and see the difference
 
That's good info!

I shall do a search for this intercooler re-work thing or has anyone had his done that can comment???

I will put filter back in and see what's what! Only a 2 min job anyway

Cheers.
 
My mate runs a Passat that's pushing out crazy power. I forget the spec, but it's some surprisingly large engine spec for a Passat. He's uprated the turbo, polished the ports etc... He's really tuned it up. I don't think they made a lot of this spec Passat, but if you got beat by a Passat, don't panic. There are some serious Passat sleepers out there that are lighter and more powerful than the Accord.
 
It was his ******* of a pal in the passenger seat laughing at me that annoyed me more than anything!!!
 
Shrug it off mate. He'll probably throw a CEL light soon anyway. It's Vdub after all :lol:
 
What year Passat was it? Petrol or diesel? I've tuned many, could probably give you an idea of what it might have been.

For example a circa 2007 Passat 2.0 tdi could be either a 140bhp or 170bhp. Add 40-50bhp to those numbers if it's tuned.. So a tuned 170 will be quicker than your accord.

Don't lose any sleep over it.
 
It was all tongue in cheek ref his pal, I gave him the thumbs up and he 'hazard lighted' me (but he WAS laughing)! B) It was a new style Passat but didn't get badge details.

Moving on, I now want to make mine a bit quicker than it already is. The Accord is a heavy car but it's the same speed as my mates 170bhp (lighter) civic 5 door MB6. My last car was the VTi-S version and it went well. The Accord is the same...just want that wee bit quicker that's all! :D

I have gained some info on this site and I realistically will aim for 210-220bhp max with intercooler re-work and as I already have a dual friction mod clutch, should all be ok for map tweek from FHAD ;)
 
p.s Does anyone know where to buy a second hand STANDARD Accord intercooler?

Was thinking that I could get it re-worked and simply install it rather than having it off the road re-working my own IC.
 
eBay or a breaker really mate.. 220 is ambitious. A new style Passat will likely have the same engine as my new A6 and with a DSG box it's good for 8 seconds.. And that's before you tune it
 
I read that the internals will be good for approx 250bhp so I went with 220bhp as a safer bet!

If I get the IC re-worked and custom cat back exhaust, roughly what would be the realistic remap 'tweek' power you could get me?
 
210 maximum really, and even then i would be pushing it more than I like.

I am yet to see a reliable hybrid turbo set up on these.
 
We would settle at 205bhp then :)

Once wheel saga is sorted then exhaust shortly after that I will see about IC rework and contact you ref remap etc.

Thanks for the info. Appreciated!
 
If you want to go fast, buy a fast car to begin with.

There's plenty of reasonably priced stuff out there that's sub 6 seconds to 60, stock, you just won't get 40+ mpg anymore.

Get an old Saab with a b204 motor, smash a big holset turbo on it, and go destroy some unsuspecting Audi drivers.
 
Hehe defo agree on the SAAB.

Audi drivers are ****s anyway... Oh wait
 
Hahaha.
 
Goodluckmonkey said:
If you want to go fast, buy a fast car to begin with.

There's plenty of reasonably priced stuff out there that's sub 6 seconds to 60, stock, you just won't get 40+ mpg anymore.

Get an old Saab with a b204 motor, smash a big holset turbo on it, and go destroy some unsuspecting Audi drivers.
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Im not 5 years old. I understand that I could have bought a subaru/evo or any fast car. But I bought this car and spent thousands on it due to the fact I love Hondas and like the shape of the Accord. I'm only wanting a bit more power from the Accord and due to the fact it's possible, I shall seek that out. I would be happy with just over 200bhp....in a car that I actually like.

Sorry for sounding a tad ****ed off but the answer you gave seems to be in all forums when people question more power from their underpowered cars. :(
 
I know where you're coming from, but I also know you're looking at diminishing returns now.
You're at the point when you have to throw a lot of money at it for small gains.

I'm not trying to be ****y, it's just that I've watched people hurl money at slow cars before, just to end up with a slightly less slow car.

Enjoy it for what it is, a comfortable, economical car.
Take the big wedge of money you'd spend on making it marginally faster, and take the girlfriend/wife on holiday instead.
 
I think your missing the point here. I only want the car to be slightly faster as I know it can be done. I'm not looking for 300 bhp here. Only want the car to be a surprisingly quick package. The VW passat was only a reference point to my thoughts :)

I know you think your helping with your 'spend money elsewhere' thoughts but really, I can do without that please.

There are thousands of faster cars out there but I'm kinda vein when it comes to cars, I like them to look nice and different from the usual ones you see. The Accord fits that bill nicely as not many are seen modified.

I hope that puts your 'buy another car' theory to bed.

Cheers
 
In that case you'll obviously already realise that the performance of a diesel is essentially all about the airflow (not necessarily boost pressure) generated by the turbo.
All the engine has to do is hang together.

You're essentially just racing turbos.

To go quicker you simply need more turbo, and also more injector to deliver the corresponding extra fuel.

Look at the hybrid turbo thread if you want to go faster.
 
I don't really know to much about the tech side of things!

The hybrid turbo thread I have read...and it gets poor results at alot of cost.

I shall say again, I'm not looking for mega power and to pump money into power gains, so the other tuning tweek I will do should see me over 200bhp...which I'm happy about! Rather spend money getting the car looking better is my focus, power is simply for fun aspect not serious gains ;)
 
Or...

Embrace the lack of speed: slam it to the floor on air bags and join the Low'n'Slow culture :lol:
 
Crikey! I'm a bit old for that...just!


Had looked into bags a while ago...approx 3k for the privilege ;)
 
A mere £3K.... I'm surprised more people aren't doing it! :lol:
 
Aa far as I'm aware, the stage 2 tune is limited by the stock clutch. You'd need more clutch to keep up with more torque. Could probably have more grunt in the midrange if it had more clutch, but by the time the motor's revving hard, the turbo can't push enough air up top if peak Hp numbers are what you're interested in.
 
Aa far as I'm aware, the stage 2 tune is limited by the stock clutch. You'd need more clutch to keep up with more torque. Could probably have more grunt in the midrange if it had more clutch, but by the time the motor's revving hard, the turbo can't push enough air up top if peak Hp numbers are what you're interested in.
 
I HAVE a dual friction modified clutch and new flywheel fitted.......
 
Next mod should be winding your neck in a little I reckon.
 
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