New Owner With A Few Issue

Hi All,

I am quite new to Accord ownership, and love it up to now. I have done a few things to my 2.0 Exec Saloon including:

New clutch
New downpipe
New rear O/S wheel bearing/ hub ***embly
New rear discs and pads
2x new front tyres (Landsail LS388 225/45/17)

I still have a few issues I would like to get cleared up.

One, I have a whirring noise, seems to be coming from the rear off side, hence the new bearing/ hub. It seems to have improved things slightly, but not fully. The whirring, does sound like a faint wheel bearing issue, gets louder at speed, but the noise is not overbearing. It gets worse when going round left hand bends, thus loading the off side. Along with the new hub, the rear discs and pads were changed. I got 2x new tyres fitted on Saturday, with the rear off side wheel fitted with the new rubber, and put on the front. The original front wheel and Falken Ziex have been put onto the rear off side.

So with the hub, discs, pads, wheel and tyre being changed, I am running out of ideas. Could someone advise?


My other issue seems to be clutch related. When the car has been stood, which is usually overnight, and is started, it can hear what sounds like a squeaky belt. When I push the clutch pedal down, the noise stops, then reappears when released. Once the car is warmed up properly, there is no noise, clutch pedal up or down. I had the clutch replaced a few months ago, not long after I bought it, but it made this noise with the old clutch, slightly louder and even when the car was warm.
The only detail I can think of on this one, is that they didn't use the correct oil. Could this cause this issue?

I also have the creaky clutch pedal, but I have been keeping this at bay with white lithium grease for now, until I get some medium grease and plunger contraption.

Thank you in advance for your help,

Re the whirring noise, that does sound like a bearing issue. Tyre type exacerbates the noise, particularly on the Tourer.

If your car is saloon, get the tracking checked (saloon has 4 wheel alignment) that might help.

Re the clutch noise, did they replace the thrust bearing ?

Hi Brian,

I though moving the tyre from the front may help, but it hasn't. Originally there was a Pirelli on the rear off side, which was rated at 91Y. All of the tyres now are 94W XL. I had the tracking done when I first got the car, but I think it was only 2 wheel alignment. I will have to look into the 4 wheel.

For the clutch, I cannot say if they did, I will have to ask. Could this be the source of the issue?

It's not so much tyre rating but tyre brand and type within the brand.

The 4 wheel alignment is known as 'Hunter 4 wheel' alignment.

Thrust bearings are usually the source of that noise, hopefully they listed the parts prices in the invoice. If not, they won't remember what they did

Had landsail on the rear of mine when originally bought. Noise was sooooo bad, actually got money off the vehicle thinking the bearing was shot. Swapped the bearing and made zero difference - promptly changed all tyres to Michelin pilots and noise gone instantly. Accords seem to hate cheap tyres and when it was in having them changed there was a very obvious lump/deformation of the landsail tyre.
To say I was gutted I hadn't spotted it myself was an under statement - the noise was that bad I honestly thought (as did the previous owner) that the bearing was shot.

The whirring noise from the rear off side could well be a sticking caliper. Seems to be a common fault. After a drive, check the heat on all 4 wheels, Is that wheel much hotter?.
Does that wheel turn easily when jacked up with the handbrake off?

A squeaky belt sound could just be a worn belt. Typical signs are, often stops after a few minutes, worse when cold or raining.

Creaky clutch pedal could be a number of things. Lack of grease on the clutch shaft by the clutch release bearing, lack of grease on the clutch release fork pivot and where it connects to the clutch slave cylinder, worn master or slave cylinder, old clutch fluid or even a few remaining air bubbles. Then there is the clutch pedal itself.
I wouldn't use ordinary grease for the clutch master cylinder. Use something suitable for rubber seals like silicone paste or red rubber grease.

Hi Ieuan,

After my drive to work this morning, there didn't seem to be any abnormal heat from any corner, so I don't think it will be that.
I am going to nip to a tyre place local to me on Saturday. They do free alignment checks with print outs. Beyond this I am running out of ideas.

For the clutch, I think I will take it to the garage I got it done at. Hopefully they can get it sorted.

Andyjdmteg said:

Had landsail on the rear of mine when originally bought. Noise was sooooo bad, actually got money off the vehicle thinking the bearing was shot. Swapped the bearing and made zero difference - promptly changed all tyres to Michelin pilots and noise gone instantly. Accords seem to hate cheap tyres and when it was in having them changed there was a very obvious lump/deformation of the landsail tyre.
To say I was gutted I hadn't spotted it myself was an under statement - the noise was that bad I honestly thought (as did the previous owner) that the bearing was shot.

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Hi Andy, I'm not sure if you had the same design of Landsail's, but I am pleasantly suprised. They are quieter than the Falken and unknown cheapy brand which were on the front. Good dry weather handling too.

As the Falken is still good on tread, I thought putting it on the rear might help, thinking the exisiting tyre might be cupped, unevenly wore etc, but it hasn't.

***uming that both rear tyres are the same brand and type, maybe try swapping them over to see if the issue changes sides or not.

See if the place did that the clutch think that it might be the aux belt, but tbh there's not much else they can do.

freddofrog said:

***uming that both rear tyres are the same brand and type, maybe try swapping them over to see if the issue changes sides or not.

See if the place did that the clutch think that it might be the aux belt, but tbh there's not much else they can do.

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Hi Brian,

The rear tyres are different, Falken and Hero (ditchfinder premiums), so I might opt for another 2x Landsails. I might also have a play around with the tyre pressures. See if I can find a setup I like. I haven't had a lot of time to play around with the car since getting it. I have kitted the interior out with LED's, got a boot liner and that's about it.

I'm pretty certain the noise is the clutch, I'm going to have a poke around this weekend, plan on following the tutorial to cure the creaky pedal first off.

I'll let you know how I get on, and hopefully get some photos up once it's had a wash

Well, the whirring is finally sorted! After changing multiple tyres, rear hub, discs and brakes, it turned out to be the tyre on the passenger rear side, which I never expected!

The tyre had terrible saw tooth on the inner edge. I never thought it could cause such a racket, but it did. I went back to my tyre place, aiming to get the two rear tyres done, but he only had 1 in stock, so I got the passenger side done, making the world of difference. I am getting the final tyre changed on Saturday so I have a matching set.

In regards to the clutch, I have sprayed motorbike chain lube (suitable for O-Ring) in the plunger. No creak but time will tell. Clutch feels good.

Next job is to reduce the throttle pedal play. Too much slack in the pedal for my liking. My Celica had a very sharp throttle response, making the Accord's feel quite lazy.

Excellent glad it's sorted - out of interest which make of tyre was the culprit?

The tyre in question was a Hero Milanza HZ1. Very odd tread pattern, which according to my tyre guy, are prone to odd wearing.