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#1 solo

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Posted 09 November 2019 - 07:10 PM

Hi all.

 

I have a 2009 8th Gen Diesel EX-GT 2.2 Dtec with about 130k on the clock. In January I had the clutch and DMF replaced after experiencing the typical slippage in 4th and 5th when acccellarating uphil. Both of my local Honda Dealers had closed so, for the first time, I took it to an independent 'RAC' garage that advertised themselves as a Honda specialist.

 

I intially spoke with the garage and proposed, for future redundancy, that they install the higher rated Type-S clutch (stiffer pressure plate) which this forum has established is a straight swap and costs the same. They seemed amenable to this and I gave them the details for Cox motor parts website. Oddly they then came back with higher part prices in their quote than those on the Cox website so I disucssed with the garage and we eventually agreed that I would supply the parts and they would fit.

 

Following the install everything was fine; the slippage was of course gone and the car could still pull away and reverse on just the idle as it always had done. The pedal pressure wasn't particularly light though.

 

However, in September we returned from a week's holiday where I had driven a very new Mazda Diesel as a hire car - a very smooth experience and a light clutch. I immediately noticed that my car could no longer pull away or reverse on the idle without significant juddering at the bite point. Once the clutch is fully engaged its fine but I now have this judder at the bite even with modeate revs. Even my 8-yr old in the back seat commented on why the passenger backrest was shaking - he had never said this before.

 

I'm positive that its not just me, having had the experience of a week of a newer hire car. I'm sure that something has changed. I also feel confident that it's not that the Type-S pressure plate is too beefy for my 150hp engine as its been fine for 8 months.  My research on here and general Google searches has suggested that it could be:

  • Poor clutch installation without the use of the correct Compression Tool.
  • Worn gearbox mounts.
  • Sticking self-adjstment mechanism.

Any thoughts please. Thanks.

 



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Posted 09 November 2019 - 07:12 PM

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Posted 09 November 2019 - 07:24 PM

Is your car remapped?

No, its not.



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Posted 10 November 2019 - 10:33 AM

Did the garage check your DMF to see if it was in spec
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Posted 10 November 2019 - 08:41 PM

I'd bet its the engine mount, its not a cheap part though.

The fact that its actually listed should point to the fact that these do give problems in reverse.

I need to do mine as it has a bad judder in reverse, Type S  2.2 2013 with 80k 

https://www.coxmotor...ount-2009-2015/



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Posted 10 November 2019 - 09:05 PM

Sorry I misread your post quickly, I thought you meant it was slipping again.

I would agree it could be a worn engine mount. Otherwise possibly a flywheel.
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Posted 11 November 2019 - 08:02 PM

Did the garage check your DMF to see if it was in spec

I don't know. However, I was very specific in what I ordered from Cox's and spoke with them over the phone about it. The invoice description matches the vehicle specification and time period:

 

Genuine Honda Accord 2.2 I-Dtec Diesel Clutch Kit & LUK Flywheel 2009-2015 - 22105RL1305







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