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#1 Pickles

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Posted 11 November 2019 - 07:09 PM

Cant see any DIY guide on this, I think I need to go out and take a wheel off to check rotor size first?  Then that will determine whether it is handbrake or non handbrake calliper.  If it is the one with the internal handbrake shoes, given how little wear these should get is there really a need to replace? Any advice or tips welcome.  



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Posted 11 November 2019 - 08:07 PM

8th gen has the same rear brake set up as the 7th gen tourer with the separate brake shoes for the handbrake.
Iv replaced both calipers on my car from Euro car parts at around £80 per side.
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Posted 11 November 2019 - 08:12 PM

8th gen has the same rear brake set up as the 7th gen tourer with the separate brake shoes for the handbrake.
Iv replaced both calipers on my car from Euro car parts at around £80 per side.

 

 

Apart from leaving the handbrake off and chocking the wheels to stop the vehicle moving is there anything else I need to do to get the combined disk/drum off?



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Posted 11 November 2019 - 08:21 PM

If you're in a tourer you have shoes for the handbrake. They should only ever come into contact with a stationary drum and are unlikely to wear. Unless the handbrake causing you any problems I wouldn't bother changing the shoes.

 

Are you disks worn? I'm at >100K miles and mine are still in spec (there is a small lip) so I can't say how easy it is to get the disk / drum off over the shoes. From what I've seen it will likely be very similar to the 7th Gen ( http://typeaccord.co...r-brake-change/ )

 

I've fitted two lots of rear pads to mine in the time I've had it. If you've done brakes before they should present few problems. If you get genuine pads they come with anti rattle shims and a little sachet of paste. The pistons just push in, rather than wind in, so no special tools required (possibly a G clamp).

 

Whilst you're at it I'd carefully remove the boots and sliders clean and regrease. It only adds a few minutes to the job and reduces the chances of everything seizing up.


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Posted 11 November 2019 - 08:25 PM

P.S. It seems a while since we've had any new DIYs, @Pickles perhaps you could document the process  ;)


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Posted 11 November 2019 - 09:29 PM

Thanks Matt, I've done fronts disks and pads before on my old 06 plate Accord saloon, and also changed the front pads on my 13 plate Accord Tourer and father in laws front pads Fiesta as well as numerous old vehicles that I owned back in the 80s, so hoping this won't be too problematic.  I will try and take some photos and if I get time do a very brief write up.



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Posted 12 November 2019 - 11:36 AM

Replaced front and rear pads on a 2004 Tourer in the last couple of weeks and very simple and standard job.

 

I found the rear pads were a tight fit but the previous ones were the same so assumed it to be correct.



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Posted 12 November 2019 - 04:05 PM

You say you have the tourer in the 8th gen.
In that case you won’t have the handbrake shoes and will be pads that do both like the 7th gen saloon.
For some reason Honda swapped the break system around.
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Posted 12 November 2019 - 04:54 PM

@Greyedout I learnt the hard way on both my 7th and 8th gen tourer rear pads to lightly file the paint from the contact points to prevent binding. If the pads aren't free to move they wear away in no time. And thats with genuine pads...

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Posted 12 November 2019 - 04:56 PM

@Brett, you were right the first time. The 7th and 8th tourer has shoes for the handbrake.

Double check Matt as I’m 99% that the tourer in the 8th gen has no mini break shoes and Honda put them in the saloon like mine instead.

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Posted 12 November 2019 - 05:56 PM

@Greyedout I learnt the hard way on both my 7th and 8th gen tourer rear pads to lightly file the paint from the contact points to prevent binding. If the pads aren't free to move they wear away in no time. And thats with genuine pads...

 

I did that with the previous set but when the new ones were also tight I thought that must be how it should be.

 

Will review them in a couple of months and then file if needed.



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Posted 12 November 2019 - 06:29 PM

Just checked on lings and indeed the tourer States handbrake shoes.
Can members with 8th gen tourers confirm this.
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Posted 13 November 2019 - 08:03 AM

Hi Brett.

 

I can confirm that the Tourer indeed has handbrake shoes, checked all mine earlier in the summer.



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Posted 13 November 2019 - 07:57 PM

Hi Brett.

I can confirm that the Tourer indeed has handbrake shoes, checked all mine earlier in the summer.


Cheers bud so all 8th gens must have the same setup now
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Posted 14 November 2019 - 12:52 PM

You need to remove the stainless shims & clean all the ***** off them. They just lightly clip out. There is no need to file the pads.

Yes all tourers 7 & 8 have brake shoes for the handbrake.

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Posted 16 November 2019 - 05:52 PM

13 plate Accord tourer diesel 2.2 Have just been out this afternoon and fitted new pads and disks.  Definitely have handbrake shoes under, you need the 305 diameter disks.  Matt I know you asked if I would do a write up but the light was very poor so taking pictures was out of the question.  

 

The right hand side centre of the disk still seems to be getting hotter than the left not sure if the calliper is binding or whether there is some other issue, can't hear the wheel bearing grumbling probably have to take it all apart again.  Anyone have any thoughts as to what this might be?

 

I now need to adjust the handbrake can anyone advise how to do that?  I will check through other threads as well, but if anyone can point me in the direction would be appreciated.



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Posted 16 November 2019 - 07:58 PM

Remove them stainless shims on the cast carrier & clean.

The adjuster is around 12 o'clock best adjusted while the disk is off.

With plenty light & good eye angle you will see the cog wheel adjuster through the black grommet hole use a medium flat blade screwdriver & rotate till you feel it bind then back off one click. Practice with the disk off 1st.

Good luck I've owned these cars for 8 years now aa a taxi & know the rear brakes well 👍
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Posted 16 November 2019 - 08:14 PM

as shaun75 said to get the handbrake set up on the wheels. You can fine adjust from inside the car: http://typeaccord.co...ake-adjustment/


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Posted 16 November 2019 - 08:36 PM

Looks like I'm taking it all apart again tomorrow (weather permitting).  Will be well practised and thanks for the advice.



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Posted 17 November 2019 - 09:47 PM

I replaced my rear pads today going by the workshop manual on my pc. It says that the stainless steel retainer clips that pads slide on are different top and bottom. I did the right side first and noticed that they are indeed different the one at the top had two holes in it and has rippled surface not flat which gives it a springing effect. The bottom one had no holes and a flat surface which keeps it tight against the caliper.

However when i did the left side they were the other way around so looks like whoever changed pads last time has mixed them up and i don't know which way is correct. Going by the honda parts catalogue the clips look the same top and bottom.

Anybody know which is the correct orientation?
Cheers