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Have an issue develope over the last couple of months. Whilst driving getting a wobbling through the steering wheel. Only happens when accelerating. Can stop it if accelerating gently. But anything above that, puts a little wobble in and if the throttle is floored it is more pronounced.

Mate had a drive of it (he is a mechanic) and suspected the inner cv joint on the drive shaft. After the test drive he put the car up on the ramp and checked for any play in the driveshafts. He found there was play on the driver's side inner cv joint.

So ordered up a replacement from Honda. £250 (with boot kit) all delivered. He took the old one off today and couldn't find anything wrong with the joint :p . He had a similar issue on an EP3, found nothing wrong with the joints, but instead had to replace the whole driveshaft.

Was wondering if someone had experienced anything similar? Look like I might need to a refurbished driveshaft from somewhere.

The car now has 147k miles on it, to the best of my knowledge is still on its original clutch.
Has 17" Epsilons on with Khumo KU31 tyres

Any thoughts, help, would be appreciated. Cheers. :wub:
 
Pete, I have heard of this.. but have you eliminated wheel balancing as a cause?

Remember not all tyre places can balance wheels properly..
 
My first thought would be a wheel off balance or a small buckle in an alloy wheel. With 17" wheels on it can be quite easy to buckle one on a pothole. Get the wheels balanced properly first
then start looking elsewhere for the problem.
 
Could it be warped disks i no you can get wobble through the steering wheel when breaking.
 
Could it be warped disks i no you can get wobble through the steering wheel when breaking.

That's a fair point about the wheel balancing. I bought the tyres on the internet and had them fitted by hi-q in cardiff. I left them to it and found that they hadn't balanced the wheels. Took it to Hereford hi-q and they balanced the tyres. I will get them checked and report back. Cheers.
 
there is a honda bulliten regarding driveshaft wear and its only on high mileage diesels which yours is. i would say if it is just on acceleration and the tracking/wheel ballance is ok the next step is new driveshafts.
 
I think you may find its the passenger side that causes it. Previous driveshaft/wobble issues have shown up mainly between 50-65mph. does your do it all the time?
 
its not a warranty item if thats what you mean. its wear and tear due to high mileage. its what honda call a ''hint and tip'' rather than a technical bulliten which aids diagnosis for there technitions. honda suggest swapping known good shafts as a first step to establish which are at fault and whether they are at fault at all.
 
Any updates on this mate? was it the driveshafts or wheel balancing/buckled wheel?

i am getting the wobble at around 55-60 then goes after 60 (getting worse if i accelerate through that speed) balancing or a buckled wheel has been suggested to me by a few people, nothing of a driveshaft :)

Any ideas on the price i could expect from a garage for this? also am i best getting new driveshafts both sides?
 
obvious and cheapest is get your wheels ballanced or rotated to rule them out. But your symptoms sound very much like driveshaft, i personally would change the offending one only but i think sometimes its tricky to find out which side. If the op reports back with passenger, than mine and a couple other have been n/s too so more than likely that side with yours aswell. They're not cheap from honda 500-700? or you can risk used part. I don't know of a place where they sell recon just yet.
 
Hi guys. Just got info back from the garage. In the end I bought a full set of drive shafts (passenger, intermediate, drivers).

i have os drivers as i replaced it thinking it was that. But turns out its the ns pass side that is the culprit. Im due to change it soon and will swap back my old one, so will hopefully have a good os shaft, but i have a funny feeling its a trait the ns goes one th diesel not substantiated though.

Same as Salim had, the passenger side driveshaft was knackered (although this was the one that didn't have any play in it). It wasn't until we changed this one that the symptoms went away. Seems to be a mileage issue, when car gets to a certain mileage seems to happen.

The wobble was whenever there was a certain amount of torque through the front wheels or more. I.e drive gently and you can drive around it.

Just need to order up some brakes and get them sorted.
 
Pete, thanks for the update.

Very interesting indeed. What sort of mileage did this start happening at? Has the car ever been in a knock or even kerbed maybe?

And did you use genuine Honda parts or aftermarket? Can you tell us what the costs were.. this will be very helpful to other members moving forward.
 
Started to notice this after I did a shed load of miles. About 145k miles. Car is now on 148k miles. I don't remember hitting any kerbs or similar.
 
Cheers for updating mate this somewhat confirms it is n/s shaft that causes it, and in most cases it will be the side that should be replaced. To note I had play in the drivers side aswell making most people change that side first when not needed.
 
Mine did this as well at 135k. New passenger side shaft and its been fine since now on 155k.
 
Just to add to this guys its not much but here goes.
Last month i was working at an army base and got talking to one of the solders very nice chap to.
He had an accord tourer diesel so i asked if he had any problems with the clutch.His car had 67k and he said no problems with the clutch so far.
What he did say was these cars have problems with there drive shafts after 120k.Im not where he got his info from so i took it as a peace of salt.So in a nutshell that's it really.
 
Hi Guys, My 06-06 facelift saloon started to develop this exact same wobble/vibration when accelerating hard through 50-60 . I've been to Springfield Honda twice with it and they've just rebalanced the wheels and said I may have a warped disk (disks now replaced) or a slight buckle on one wheel.

I've rotated the wheels etc and still have the vibration, my car has only done 84k

What do you guys think? Any idea on cost etc for this drive shaft replacement?

Cheers
 
Guys I have recently experienced this problem on my 07 tourer at 57k. I first thought it must be balancing issue so had all for wheels checked one wheel was out so I thought happy days. Well that was short lived so decided to swap wheels around but the problem was still there.

Lack of time made me wave the white flag and call in the expertise of HH, first thing Steve said was its drive shaft problem. But instead of simply replacing the shafts he would instead replace the inner joints. So went down on friday and they replaced both inner joints and all vibration or wobble has now gone. The issue was the exact same as described by others so simply replacing the inner joints fingers crossed will be a cheaper alternative than buying all new drive shafts.

Why the inner joints needed replacing at 57k! is an entirely different conversation.
 
Guys I have recently experienced this problem on my 07 tourer at 57k. I first thought it must be balancing issue so had all for wheels checked one wheel was out so I thought happy days. Well that was short lived so decided to swap wheels around but the problem was still there.

Lack of time made me wave the white flag and call in the expertise of HH, first thing Steve said was its drive shaft problem. But instead of simply replacing the shafts he would instead replace the inner joints. So went down on friday and they replaced both inner joints and all vibration or wobble has now gone. The issue was the exact same as described by others so simply replacing the inner joints fingers crossed will be a cheaper alternative than buying all new drive shafts.

Why the inner joints needed replacing at 57k! is an entirely different conversation.

Good news. I did get a joint from Steels Honda, but it was an outer joint, I think, and I returned it. I got a complete set of driveshafts (as I went through breakers). Car is now approaching 155k miles and issue hasn't returned.
 
Guys I have recently experienced this problem on my 07 tourer at 57k. I first thought it must be balancing issue so had all for wheels checked one wheel was out so I thought happy days. Well that was short lived so decided to swap wheels around but the problem was still there.

Lack of time made me wave the white flag and call in the expertise of HH, first thing Steve said was its drive shaft problem. But instead of simply replacing the shafts he would instead replace the inner joints. So went down on friday and they replaced both inner joints and all vibration or wobble has now gone. The issue was the exact same as described by others so simply replacing the inner joints fingers crossed will be a cheaper alternative than buying all new drive shafts.

Why the inner joints needed replacing at 57k! is an entirely different conversation.
Glad your sorted Andy did i read a thread about some kind of extended warranty on the drive shafts.If not i must be getting my wires crossed.
 
Guys I have recently experienced this problem on my 07 tourer at 57k. I first thought it must be balancing issue so had all for wheels checked one wheel was out so I thought happy days. Well that was short lived so decided to swap wheels around but the problem was still there.

Lack of time made me wave the white flag and call in the expertise of HH, first thing Steve said was its drive shaft problem. But instead of simply replacing the shafts he would instead replace the inner joints. So went down on friday and they replaced both inner joints and all vibration or wobble has now gone. The issue was the exact same as described by others so simply replacing the inner joints fingers crossed will be a cheaper alternative than buying all new drive shafts.

Why the inner joints needed replacing at 57k! is an entirely different conversation.

Hi Monks

I recently bought a 2004 CTDI tourer- 160k on the clock but had new engine at 100k. I noticed when acelerating moderatley, the wobble and judder starts to happen at about 2000 rpm in 2nd, bit higher in 3rd and same in 4th! someone said it could be the DMF but clutch was done in Oct 10 and I ***ume the DMF would vibrate all the time!

it feels like its coming from passenger side and is worse when turning left

my prob seems very similar to yours - how much did Honda charge for the inner joints?

cheers :D
 
Hi guys,

Just thought I add, I had the same symptoms as described but had managed to learn to drive without making the car wobble. I changed the passenger side shaft first for a low mileage second hand unit but this made no difference what so ever. I then saw a full driver side shaft on ebay and took the chance and bought it, fitted it today and the wobble has completely gone!!

I had spoken to a driveshaft specialist in Swansea in the interim and had been told that the driver side shaft is usually to blame but not always. Apparently the cup on the intermediate shaft becomes worn causing the wobble.

Cheers,

Huw
 
Guys I have recently experienced this problem on my 07 tourer at 57k. I first thought it must be balancing issue so had all for wheels checked one wheel was out so I thought happy days. Well that was short lived so decided to swap wheels around but the problem was still there.

Lack of time made me wave the white flag and call in the expertise of HH, first thing Steve said was its drive shaft problem. But instead of simply replacing the shafts he would instead replace the inner joints. So went down on friday and they replaced both inner joints and all vibration or wobble has now gone. The issue was the exact same as described by others so simply replacing the inner joints fingers crossed will be a cheaper alternative than buying all new drive shafts.

Why the inner joints needed replacing at 57k! is an entirely different conversation.

Not sure if anyone can help, to add to vas issues also have stearing wheel vibration. Only at around 70 then clears. Car has done 123k, hoping balancing. Best place to start ? Thanks
 
Not sure if anyone can help, to add to vas issues also have stearing wheel vibration. Only at around 70 then clears. Car has done 123k, hoping balancing. Best place to start ? Thanks

Phil

Worth getting the balancing checked out first
 
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