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Baldilocks

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My sidelights and number plate lights have stopped working, main lights and fogs work fine.
It started when I tried to change the front side lights to led ones I bought from ebay after one of mine had blown, the led's didn't work, one lit up then went out, since then the tail lights and number plate lights don't work.

I found a blown 10A fuse in the passenger footwell fuse box but replacing it hasn't fixed the problem.
At the moment the side lights (front) are missing as I'm waiting for replacements so not sure if this is the issue but surely the rear lights should work?

Any one able to offer any advice?
 

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CW3 Driver's Under-dash Fuse/Relay Box

Fuse Number Amps Component(s) or Circuit(s) Protected
1 7.5A E-pretensioner unit * , LKAS unit *
2 7.5A ACC unit, Headlight leveling control unit (with HID), Left headlight leveling motor (without HID), Millimeter wave radar * , Power seat control unit
3 15A Passenger's MICUAnd Windshield washer motor (via windshield washer relay circuitAnd rear window washer relay circuit in the passenger's under-dash fuse/relay box)
4 10A Passenger's MICUAnd rear window wiper motor (via rear wiper motor relay circuit) Passenger's under-dash fuse/relay box (rear wiper motor relay circuit), Relay circuit board (wiper motor relay circuit)
5 7.5A Automatic dimming inside mirror,Automatic lighting/rain sensor, Back-up lights, Driver's MICU, Gauge control module, Headlight washer/parking sensor switch, LKAS camera * , Parking/back-up sensor control unit, Parking sensor switch
Via passenger's under-dash fuse/relay box:
Back-up lights switch, Passenger's MICU
6 7.5A EPS control unit, Headlight leveling switch (without HID), Right headlight leveling motor (without HID), Relay circuit board (ACC relay circuit), VSA modulator-control unit, Yaw rate-lateralAcceleration sensor
ACC unitAnd VSA modulator-control unit (viaACC relay circuit in the relay circuit board)
7 15A Alternator, Brake pedal position switch, Electrical load detector (ELD), MAF sensor/IAT sensor 1
8 7.5A ECM (STS)
9 20A Immobilizer-keyless control unit, PGM-FI main relay 3 (FUEL PUMP)
Presupply Fuel pump (via PGM-FI main relay 3 (FUEL PUMP))
10 ——— Not used
11 10A SRS unit
12 7.5A Front passenger'sAirbag cutoff indicator, SRS unit
13 7.5A ECM
14 ——— Not used
15 ——— Not used
16 7.5A A/C compressor clutch relay,Audio-HVAC display unit (without navigation),Audio-navigation switch panel, Blower motor relay, Climate control unit, Door multiplex control unit (power window master switch), Driver's MICU, Driver's seat heater switch, Front passenger's seat heater switch, Magnet valve, Power mirror switch, Radiator fan relay (via relay circuit board in the under-hood fuse/relay box), Rear window defogger relay, Relay circuit board (fan control relay circuit)
Driver's MICU (via rear window defogger relay), ECM (ACC) (viaA/C compressor relay), ECM (FANL) (via radiator fan relay)
17 7.5A Driver's MICU
18 7.5A Audio unit, CargoAreaAccessory power socket relay, Cigarette lighter relay, ConsolAccessory power socket relay, Hands Free Telephone control unit, Interface dial (with navigation), Navigation display unit, Navigation unit, Microphone (with navigation)
Via passenger's under-dash fuse/relay box: Hands Free Telephone control unit, Interface dial (with navigation), Navigation display unit, Navigation unit
19 20A Power seat control unit
20 20A Sunroof control unit/motor
21 20A Power seat control unit
22 20A Driver's MICU *1 , Left
rear power window relay circuit *1 , Left
rear power window switch
23 20A Cigarette lighter relay
Cigarette lighter (via cigarette lighter relay)
24 20A Door multiplex control unit (power window master switch)
25 15A Power door lock relay circuit (DR UNLOCK), Power door lock relay circuit (LOCK), Power door lock relay circuit (UNLOCK)And Tailgate releaseActuator relay circuit
Driver's MICUAnd Tailgate releaseActuator (via tailgate releaseActuator relay circuit), Driver's door lockActuator, Driver's MICUAnd Fuel fill door lockActuator (via power door lock relay circuit (DR UNLOCK), Driver's door lockActuator, Driver's MICU, Left
rear door lockActuatorAnd Fuel fill door lockActuator (via power door lock relay circuit (LOCK)), Driver's MICUAnd Left
rear door lockActuator (via power door lock relay circuit (UNLOCK)
26 10A Front fog light relay circuit *2 , Left
front fog light
Driver's MICU, (via front fog light relay circuit) *2
27 10A Left
front position light, Left inner taillight, Left taillight, License plate light, Right inner taillight, Right taillight, Taillight relay circuit *2
Driver's MICU (via taillight relay) *2
28 10A Driver's MICU (H/L HI)
29 10A *3 Daytime running light relay
Front position lights, License plate lights,And Taillights (via daytime running light relay), Passenger's MICU (via passenger's under-dash fuse/relay box)
30 15A Driver's MICU (H/L LO)
31 ——— Not used​
 

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CW3 Passenger's Under-dash Fuse/Relay Box

Fuse Number Amps Component(s) or Circuit(s) Protected
1 10A Passenger's MICU (RIGHT H/L HI)
2 10A No. 6 fuse Right
front position light, Passenger's MICU *2 , Taillight relay circuit *1
Passenger's MICU (via taillight relay circuit) *1
3 10A Fog light relay circuit *1 , Right
front fog light, Passenger's MICU *2
Passenger's MICU (via fog light relay circuit) *1
4 15A Passenger's MICU (RIGHT H/L LO)
5 ——— Not used
6 7.5A Ashtray light,Audio unit,Audio-HVAC display unit (without navigation),Audio-navigation switch panel, Cigarette lighter light, Climate control unit, Headlight washer switch light, Headlight leveling switch light (without HID), Driver's footwell light, Driver's seat heater switch light, Front passenger'sAirbag cutoff switch light, Front passenger's footwell light, Front passenger's seat heater switch light, Glove box light, Hazard warning switch light, Navigation display unit, Navigation unit, ParkingAnd back-up sensor switch light, Steering wheel switches light, Sunroof switch light/ambient light, Ultrasonic switch light *3 , UltrasonicAnd inclination sensor switch light *3 , VSA OFF switch light, VSA OFF/CMBS OFF switch light
7 ——— Not used
8 20A Front passenger's power seatAdjustment switch
Front passenger's power seat reclineAnd rear up-down motor (via front passenger's power seatAdjustment switch)
9 20A Front passenger's power seatAdjusment switch
Front passenger's power seat slideAnd front up-down motor (via front passenger's power seatAdjustment switch)
10 10A *4
20A *3 Power door lock relay circuit (LOCK) (UNLOCK), LeftAnd right side super locking LOCK relay *3 , Super locking UNLOCK relay *3
Front passenger's door lockActuator, Passenger's MICUAnd Right
rear door lockActuator (via power door lock relay circuit (LOCK) (UNLOCK)), Passenger's MICU (via leftAnd right side super locking LOCK relayAnd Super locking UNLOCK relay) *3
11 20A Right
rear power window relay circuit *5 , Right
rear power window switch
Passenger's MICU (via right
rear power window relay circuit) *5
12 20A ConsoleAccessory power socket relay
ConsoleAccessory power socket (viaAccessory power socket relay)
13 20A Front passenger's power window switch
14 ——— Not used
15 20A StereoAmplifier
16 20A CargoAreaAccessory power socket relay
CargoAreaAccessory power socket (via cargoAreaAccessory power socket relay)
17 7.5A Passenger's MICU
18 ——— Not used
19 20A Driver's seat heater relay, Front passenger's seat heater relay
Driver's seat heater (via driver's seat heater relay), Front passenger's seat heater (via front passenger's seat heater relay)
20 30A E-pretensioner unit
21 30A E-pretensioner unit
22 ——— Not used​
 

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CW3 Under-hood Fuse/Relay Box

Fuse Number Amps Component(s) or Circuit(s) Protected
1 MAIN 100A Battery, Power supply
AS F/B 60A *1 No. 7 to No. 13 and No. 20 and No. 21 fuses in the passenger's under-dash fuse/relay box
40A *2
2 2-1 EPS 70A EPS control unit
2-2 GLOW 70A Glow plug control module
2-3 VSA FSR 30A VSA modulator-control unit (FSR)
2-4 AS F/B OP 40A No. 14 to No. 19 and No. 22 fuses in the passenger's under-dash fuse/relay box
2-5 VSA MTR 30A VSA modulator-control unit (MTR)
2-6 ——— ——— Not used
3 3-1 IG MAIN 50A Ignition switch, No. 31 fuse in the driver's under-dash fuse/relay box
No. 1 to No. 7 and No. 9 to No. 13 fuses in the driver's under-dash fuse/relay box (via ignition switch)
3-2 PTG MTR 40A Power tailgate control unit
3-3 AS LT MAIN 50A No. 1 to No. 5 fuses in the passenger's under-dash fuse/relay box
3-4 DR F/B 60A No. 14 and No. 19 to No. 25 fuses in the driver's under-dash fuse/relay box
3-5 DR LT MAIN 40A No. 26 to No. 30 fuses in the driver's under-dash fuse/relay box
3-6 MAIN FAN MTR 30A Relay circuit board (radiator fan relay circuit)
Radiator fan motor (via radiator fan relay circuit in the relay circuit board)
3-7 FUEL HEATER 30A Fuel heater relay
ECM and fuel heater (via fuel heater relay)
3-8 WIP MTR 30A Relay circuit board (Wiper motor relay circuit, Wiper motor intermittent relay circuit and Wiper motor HI/LOW relay circuit)
Driver's MICU and Wiper motor (High/Low) (via Wiper motor HI/LOW relay circuit in the relay circuit board)
4 40A Rear window defogger relay
Rear window defogger (via rear window defogger relay)
5 20 A PGM-FI main relay 1 (ECU), PGM-FI main relay 2 (SOL)
ECM, Fuel rail pressure control valve, Fuel rail pressure regulator and Inertia switch (via PGM-FI main relay 1 (ECM)), ECM (IMOFLR) (via PGM-FI main relay 3 (FUEL PUMP)), PGM-FI main relay 3 (FUEL PUMP) (via PGM-FI main relay 1 (ECU))
6 ——— Not used
7 20A Power tailgate control unit
8 40A Blower motor relay
Blower motor (via blower motor relay)
9 15A Driver's MICU and Hazard warning switch (via driver's under-dash fuse/relay box)
10 10A Horn relay, Security horn relay
Cruise control combination switch *1 , Distance switch *1 , Horn (high, low) and Horn switch (via horn relay), Security horn (via security horn relay)
11 30A Headlight washer motor relay
Headlight washer motor and passenger's MICU (via headlight washer motor relay)
12 15A Brake pedal position switch, Relay circuit board (ACC relay circuit)
ACC unit, VSA modulator-control unit and brake lights (via ACC relay circuit in the relay circuit board)
13 15A PGM-FI main relay 2 (SOL)
CMP sensor, EGR cooler bypass control solenoid valve, Glow plug control module, Engine oil level sensor fuse, Relay circuit board (Fan control relay circuit, ISV control relay circuit and Radiator relay circuit), Reverse lock solenoid, Turbo charger boost control solenoid valve, A/C condenser fan relay, A/F sensor relay, and fuel heater relay (via PGM-FI main relay 2 (SOL))
14 10A A/F sensor
15 10A Via driver's under-dash fuse/relay box:
Driver's MICU, Ultrasonic siren
Via passenger's under-dash fuse/relay box:
ACC unit, Audio unit, Audio-Navigation switch panel, Audio-HVAC display unit (without navigation), Automatic lighting/rain sensor, Data link connector (DLC), Door multiplex control unit (Power window master switch), Driver's courtesy light, Front passenger's courtesy light, Gauge control module, Hands Free Telephone control unit, Immobilizer-keyless control unit, Inclination sensor Microphone (with navigation), Navigation display unit, Navigation unit, Power seat control unit, Power tailgate control unit, Passenger's MICU, Ultrasonic switch, Ultrasonic/Inclination sensor switch
16 7.5A Via driver's under-dash fuse/relay box:
Right rear cargo area light, Right rear door courtesy light
Via passenger's under-dash fuse/relay box:
Ceiling light, Ignition key light, Driver's vanity mirror light, Individual map light, Inside tailgate switch, Left cargo area light, Left rear door courtesy light, Passenger's vanity mirror light
17 30A A/C condenser fan relay
A/C condenser fan motor (via A/C condenser fan relay)
18 15A Relay circuit board (ISV control relay circuit)
Intake shutter valve (via ISV control relay circuit in the relay circuit board)
19 7.5A ECM
20 7.5A A/C compressor clutch relay
A/C compressor clutch (via A/C compressor clutch relay)
21 7.5A ECM (F/HTR MON)
 

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Many Thanks Brian,
According to the above fuse no.27 in the drivers footwell should be the one.

I'll check it tomorrow and report back.

Cheers
 

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Let us know also there is fuses under bonnet as freddofrog has listed

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honda_saj said:
Let us know also there is fuses under bonnet as freddofrog has listed

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yep under-hood = under bonnet ;)

just too many fuses IMO

#5 = CW3 Driver's Under-dash Fuse/Relay Box
#6 = CW3 Passenger's Under-dash Fuse/Relay Box
#7 = CW3 Under-hood Fuse/Relay Box
 

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Success!!

With a bit of contortion-ism I changed the 10amp fuse (no27) in the drivers footwell and the lights are back on except for the one that's blown.
Picked up some fuses yesterday and bought the wrong ones, the guy at my local auto spare store sold me the mini blade fuses telling me those were the ones for Japanese cars but I found out later I should have bought micro, my fault for not taking one along for comparison. Anyway the mini fuses still fit but protrude a little as they're taller.

As said above, there are a lot of fuses on this car so I've ordered a truck load from ebay so I don't get caught short again.

Thanks to Freddofrog for the detailed info.
 
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