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Out of respect to Steve's wishes, I was not posting in this thread... I thought you were meant to stay away as well Dinu? But I'm happy to start posting comments again if necessary.

I don't think many of my comments yesterday were meant to be humorous and I stand by them... particularly that these discussions should be conducted on your own website, not TypeAccord. And stop posting things like 'you need a reflash' every time a K24 or CL9 gets mentioned in other threads.

Brian should definitely be charging you guys a consultancy fee. I hope you let him test a modified ECU without delay (and free of charge) as a 'reward'.
 
what the heck are you talking about, about the "consultancy" you're totally exagerating :) , I don't think anyone here needed a "consultancy " from Brian (except you, from a specialised person) my 2 cents , and it's up to the OP/developer to decide if Brian will test something for free , not up to you or me or anyone else
 
Dinu, just back off dude, please just back off and leave it.

I give up, I've shown all the calculations, you've twisted and turned and argued, and not actually absorbed anything that I have written.

Instead of snatching the gears through, all you need to do is take the car slowly in 1st up to 7000 rpm, then slowly change into 2nd, then hold the car at that speed and you will see what I am saying.

What is so irksome about this topic is that to me it is all very simple stuff, if you look at the timings of my posts for each calculation that I did on each post, it took me about 6 minutes using the calculator on the PC then typing it all in again. I don't need any links on the internet for any of this stuff. If you are re-mapping ECU's you should already be capable of doing everything that I have said, and if not, you should be inquisitive and ready to learn new things.

IMO someone has got hold of a map from the USA, tinkered a bit with it, found out how to shove it into the ECU, and now pushing like crazy to make some money. With one of my sons we could quickly find out all of this "expertise" that is costing folks £300 per time, and give a value price of £200.

The important thing about this latest topic, the "rpm" at gear changes, is that it shows that the extra claims and benefits of "butt dyno" and hoo-ha are just boy-racer talk. At no point have I disputed that it will give an increase in acceleration, and my calculations show about 10% improvement in lower gears. But you have to accept that the stride from 1st to 2nd in the stock gear box is ~3500 rpm, which you did not know and you do not accept.

finally, in the other thread, Pete has statted that the CL9 owners-manual says the same as mine. :mad:
 
Brian, dude back off your "punk rock " dog please, he is barking again (what is with that s****, he comments s****s then you hit likes ... :) )

You write a lot of stuff , but there was nothing new that we had to learn from you, really .
And you talk a lot about a product you never tested :)
You are the person who will never admit that is wrong even with a prove in his face (like the 3500/4500 rpm issue you are hanging on so strong ).
 
dinoc said:
You are the person who will never admit that is wrong even with a prove in his face (like the 3500/4500 rpm issue you are hanging on so strong ).
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you guys are wind-up merchants
 
freddofrog said:
With one of my sons we could quickly find out all of this "expertise"
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Good luck, wind-up engineer ) Visit renesas website to get a cpu datasheet first and dont forget to ask em for sdk kit also, it will be your starting point to "quickly" find out how to make 200. Once you know everything about reflash and how it was made or should be made i think you dont even need to test it, nothing new for ya, so why should we waste your pricey time for this ?

i flashed stock MT today and spent 30 mins playing with gearing . no way to land 2nd on 3700, even with slow shifts. engine sound @ 3700 and 4500 is different, and it sounds like 4500 when 2nd gear comes in. Next time i will record all sounds to recognize their frequency and will compare em to see if im wrong. My english isnt perfect and im not that smart to explain this so its better to keep my opinion for myself and for those who see same what i see.
 
littlebo said:
i flashed stock MT today and spent 30 mins playing with gearing . no way to land 2nd on 3700, even with slow shifts. engine sound @ 3700 and 4500 is different, and it sounds like 4500 when 2nd gear comes in. Next time i will record all sounds to recognize their frequency and will compare em to see if im wrong. My english isnt perfect and im not that smart to explain this so its better to keep my opinion for myself and for those who see same what i see.
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you guys are wind-up merchants ....another example of your wind-ups is found here http://typeaccord.co.uk/forum/topic/17158-remote-fob/?p=188932

what i suggest is: slowly go up to 7000 rpm in 1st, slowly change into 2nd, then keep the car in 2nd at that speed and look at the rev counter. Now you will see what the calculations show, then you need to stop and ask yourselves what is going on, and what is the danger of re-mapping ECU's if you don't understand the issue of high-speed gear changes at WOT in a standard road-car with "cheap" (notice the quotes) timing sensors.

I trust the expertise of Honda R&D, the reasons for their maps, and the dangers of amateurs playing with maps without taking other issues into consideration.

I've got better things to do now.

Goodbye.
 
Just read and ask yourself, did Brians's posts, with all his reverse engineering and math he is trying to get (for a product he never tested - for which he was politeley let to write, including all those jokes and double posts and so on ) proved what ?
Is the reflash better/worse now after reading all his posts, how did he help you, with what exactly ? :) there are a lot of distracting posts for a product he never tested ... instead of waiting for his free offered testing he starts talking non-sense on post #363 backing up his troll buddy jon_g (which insulted us several times with no real reason) and tells me to back off :)

Why will anyone on earth do slow rpm climb to 7000 rpm on 1st gear and wait after for the rpm to drop to an unwanted rpm point - what is this got to do with the reflash subject , when in real life no one will do that and all people will see at lest 4500 rpm - what's the point of hanging on this subject when is got nothing to do with the reflash ??? just lots of distraction ...
 
freddofrog said:
you guys are wind-up merchants
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More like rip-off merchants.
I wonder if i should reflash my Massey Ferguson for better ploughing. :rolleyes:

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Interesting comment Piotr... have you had a bad experience with littlebo, Dinoc or UKCL9?

Please do tell us more.
 
freddofrog said:
I trust the expertise of Honda R&D, the reasons for their maps, and the dangers of amateurs playing with maps without taking other issues into consideration.
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So what is ETA for er cheap and properly made reflash ?


dinoc , man , cool down. save your nerves and stay on topic, we are here to explain the brew for those whos interested, not to discuss freddo )) if he wanna drive stock map - just let him do that. we flashed 4 UK guys already with 100% positive result + good feedbacks and more on the way. just sit, relax and read reviews. few more feedbacks will make a spot about if its good or bad.
 
Yes Eric, we are. We probably were 10 pages ago.

This ridiculous thread is seriously undermining the credibility of TypeAccord. I have no idea why it hasn't been deleted in it's entirety.

These guys need to get their own interactive website and stop abusing this one.

Littlebo, as I've said before, I don't doubt you have a product that does bring real benefit... but stick to what's real and don't claim all sorts of extra benefits that aren't actually able to be demonstrated. Brian has dismissed these 'unreal' benefits with a lot of detailed posts that hopefully potential buyers of your reflash will read and understand.
 
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Brian dismissed zero stuff as per my conclusion on post #368 , lots of ado about nothing ..just distracting stuff for something he never tested.
All his posts are on this thread, everyone can read them.

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Yes Eric, we are. We probably were 10 pages ago.

This ridiculous thread is seriously undermining the credibility of TypeAccord. I have no idea why it hasn't been deleted in it's entirety.

These guys need to get their own interactive website and stop abusing this one.

Littlebo, as I've said before, I don't doubt you have a product that does bring real benefit... but stick to what's real and don't claim all sorts of extra benefits that aren't actually able to be demonstrated. Brian has dismissed these 'unreal' benefits with a lot of detailed posts that hopefully potential buyers of your reflash will read and understand.
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What a shame...

I rarely get annoyed about the things people say online as, well, life's too short. But I'll be honest I'm pretty pee'd off now and growing tired of this.

Too many egos, to many people with chips on their shoulders and points to prove over an ECU remap. Honestly, some of this thread is just pathetic, and I'm talking to both sides of the argument here. There is some very petulant behaviour on show here. It's embarrassing, especially from certain members who should know better.

It seems people on both sides are incapable of clearly following my very unsubtle direction to back off so things can slowly move forward and TA staff can quietly monitor the situation. If it grows into something positive, brilliant. We'll be glad we gave it the opportunity. If it's not so great, we'll deal with it accordingly. But it's nice to know some of you have so little faith in the TA staff for this... <_< . Mind you, I'd be surprised if you thought that far into it. Probably just focussed on shouting and making your point above all else. Above considering a larger picture...

Some of you seem hell bent on shouting, arguing, trying to out engineer each other and always have to have the last word. Maybe even purposely derail this thread, which by all accounts would surely be a case of pot calling kettle black with some of things said? I dunno, perhaps I'm reading too much into this.

So it's with this that this thread has finally called time on my patience. And I'm sure you'll agree, I'm a pretty placid and patient person with this sort of thing normally <_< (yes, I'm using that emoticon again!!!).

So where from here...

Well, so far we have a few user reviews that have been positive. However, some forum members are concerned over the newness of the members who are posting positively... Fair point... Would be nice to hear something from someone who's been on the forum a long time. Sfai, although a quiet member is in my opinion a very trust worthy opinion, but you'd rather someone with a high post count test it. That's ok.

Therefore I'm locking this thread temporarily until someone who's been around with a high post count for a while tests an ECU and wishes to contribute something, positive or negative... When this happens, they should PM me and I will unlock the thread so they can write their thoughts. Positive or Negative.

The thread will then remain open for sensible discussion only. Any personal snipes will be removed. If it suffers another derailment it's locked again pending review.

We want objective feedback. We want clarity. We want to know if this is a worthwhile thing for the K24 owners of TA. That is all. And that is not and never will be undermining TA.

Thank you
 
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