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So went to the car this morning turn key, and it missed. Tried again, missed again. Now it will not fire at all. Was running fine last night but now nothing. The first 2 times it almost started, It sounded like it started so let the key go but it died straight away.i reckon it can only be either the engine is flooded so not allowing the spark to ignite or the coil is shot but if it was the coil would it not have been sluggish to start before now?
 
If you think it's flooded, then floor the accelerator while cranking.

Spray something like WD40 onto the high voltage electrics as well to eliminate dampness as a problem.

Was it cranking over as fast as usual?
 
Daft question but is the petrol in the car.
Other things to check is your plugs and coil pack if there us one on the 6th gen
 
you will flood engine even more if you press accelerator...
check if fuel pump is operational?
Take out and check spark plug and see if it is light brown color or black color.replace if black.
Check for spark (put on hi-voltage spark plug wire on it, press spark plug to any grounded car metal surface and crank engine (do not release spark-plug from "grounding surface" while cranking,as you can damage ignition coil)).
If engine is flooded then spark plugs should be wet ;take out all plugs if engine is flooded and crack engine for few seconds. then place plugs back.(if you have good spare spark-plugs, then replace them).
Change fuel filter if never changed before.
 
you will flood engine even more if you press accelerator...
I realise it sounds wrong, but - unless there is a special reason for this not to work on a 1.8 6th gen Accord - then I stand by my advice that flooring the acceleration is the best way to clear a flooded engine. Opening the throttle will allow a far greater airflow into the cylinders, while the ECU will realise the engine condition is not demanding a correspondingly large amount of fuel to be injected and the excess fuel in the cylinders will be cleared.

However, if it is a flooding problem, then this is very unusual on a fairly modern FI engine and you'll need to work out why this is happening before the excess unburnt fuel on start-up damages the cat.
 
^ he's right. Cold-start enrichment (choking) only works for small throttle openings. When a throttle is moved open, a carb has an accelerator pump that literally sprays extra fuel into the venturi when the throttle flap(s) open (reason is for what is called "wall-wetting", which is a phenomenon of vapour moving to the outside of the air-stream when the air-stream increases, so the accelerator pump enriches the air-stream during opening of the throttle). But once the throttle is no longer moving, the enrichment spray stops. While cranking, with wide-open throttle, you now have max possible air-flow, but since the engine rpm is low the air-flow is low through the venturi, so the air-fuel ratio (AFR) becomes lean (because the "choking" enrichment can no longer "choke"). As you keep cranking, because the liquid fuel in the manifold and cylinders starts to evaporate, eventually you dry it all out, and reach the point where the AFR is correct for the engine to fire up. At that point, you move the throttle back to nearly closed, so that the AFR remains rich due to cold-start "choking". An EFI system does the same thing as a carb, execpt it sprays into the manifold (there is no ventruri with an EFI system), otherwise the description is the same.
 
So checked the plugs. They were fine. Checked everything that was asked nothing. Got a diagnostic machine thing from my mate. No codes. Still wouldn't start. Put it all back together. Had a ***, swore talked about scrapping it. Tried again. It fired, first time with a bang. Starts fine runs fine. I'm now totally confused as to what it could have been. There is a strong smell of coolant when it running but it's not leaking any from anywhere and it hasn't used any in over 6 months. It is using a little oil but apparently this is common with these things?.
Must just not have wanted to go shopping?!?
 
You might have flooded it. When it didn't start, I bet you began to waggle the throttle pedal. Pumping the throttle pedal during cold-start is a no-no. Either keep your feet off ..... or slowly put your foot down, then keep your foot down for about a minute, then slowly take you foot off. If you didn't touch the throttle pedal, only god knows now :lol:
 
You might have flooded it. When it didn't start, I bet you began to waggle the throttle pedal. Pumping the throttle pedal during cold-start is a no-no. Either keep your feet off ..... or slowly put your foot down, then keep your foot down for about a minute, then slowly take you foot off. If you didn't touch the throttle pedal, only god knows now :lol:
Don't know if that's true in a fuel injection engine.
In the carburetor time, that was a real issue B)
 
Wasn't on the pedal as was out the door looking into engine bay. But as you say god only knows
 
So checked the plugs. They were fine. Checked everything that was asked nothing. Got a diagnostic machine thing from my mate. No codes. Still wouldn't start. Put it all back together. Had a ***, swore talked about scrapping it. Tried again. It fired, first time with a bang. Starts fine runs fine. I'm now totally confused as to what it could have been. There is a strong smell of coolant when it running but it's not leaking any from anywhere and it hasn't used any in over 6 months. It is using a little oil but apparently this is common with these things?.
Must just not have wanted to go shopping?!?

Have you thought about the mains relay, it's known to fail on this cars.
It can be starting to fail and had the bad luck to fail while starting it up....
 
Don't know if that's true in a fuel injection engine.
In the carburetor time, that was a real issue B)
Depends on the type of EFI system. On modern "fly-by-wire" definitely not true. On EFI systems from the 60's/70's/80's and some in the 90's they're just an electronic version of multiple carbs.

Wasn't on the pedal as was out the door looking into engine bay. But as you say god only knows
I remember a kids TV programme called "twizzle" years ago, he could extend his body like that :lol:
 
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