2009 Accord ES GT manual petrol estate

[spannerman]

Hi all. I was going to buy a 2011 type S diesel but I am put off with all the hassles that go with the diesels vehicles. I am looking at purchasing a 2009 Accord ES GT in manual petrol estate. I gather this is an 8th gen as there are no pictures available yet, would I be correct in that ***umption? Is this canbus? and do the 8th gen sat navs have a 3d view instead of a looking down from above view?

Thanks

 

[Racy Jace]

Hi dude.

Yes its an 8th gen.
Not sure what can bus is.
Sat nav in 2D unless I've missed something.

 

[freddofrog]

CANbus = Car Area Network bus (all ECU's are connected on a comms-bus)

7th gen facelift has CANbus, so 8th gen will too.

 

[bedlam]

the 8th gen don't have canbus on it. it just a way of the car reporting to you that a light has blown, which the 8th gen don't do.

And the sat nav don't do 3d.

Andy

 

[spannerman]

Thanks all

I shall view petrol car tomorrow and decide whether to go for the petrol manual 2.0 or the type S diesel. I test drove the Type S diesel the other day and found it rather noisy on acceleration as the revs built up. I have to commute in heavy traffic everyday all stop start. This is why i'm thinking of going for the petrol as I don't want DPF and DMF problems as the car ages

 

[freddofrog]

the 8th gen don't have canbus on it. it just a way of the car reporting to you that a light has blown, which the 8th gen don't do.

what ???

you need to read this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OBD-II_PIDs

CAN-bus is mandatory in all new cars in N.America since 2008, and it would be weird for Honda to produce a car with CAN-bus for the N.American market, but not for Japan or the EU.
Note also that OBD-II is based around CAN-bus, so that it can read any of the ECU's on the bus.
Because 7th gen facelift and 8th gen do have CANbus, an OBD-II scanner should be able to read any of the DTC's on any ECU in the 7th gen facelift onwards.

On vehicles such as the 7th gen pre-facelift (which does not have CAN-bus), an OBD-II scanner will read some DTC's via the OBD Port, using the K-line signal between the OBD port and the MICU.


edit:
I've been doing a bit of digging on the comms setup in the 7th gen pre-facelift

The MICU connects to other ECU's in the car via either B-Can (body control area network) or F-Can (fast control area network).
Electronic Control Units such as the engine ECU, ABS/VSA ECU and sat-nav are on F-Can.
The climate control unit, the tailgate ECU, the door control and light switching unit are on B-Can.
The only way to be certain of reading all the DTC's on all of the systems on the 7th gen pre-facelift is by using the Honda HDS.

 

[bedlam]

I was referring to the warning that the canbus system give you when you have a bulb failure.. sorry I should have made that clear, as they did not use the feature on the 8th gen model.

Me bad
Andy

 

[richsprint]

Thanks all

I shall view petrol car tomorrow and decide whether to go for the petrol manual 2.0 or the type S diesel. I test drove the Type S diesel the other day and found it rather noisy on acceleration as the revs built up. I have to commute in heavy traffic everyday all stop start. This is why i'm thinking of going for the petrol as I don't want DPF and DMF problems as the car ages

The 2.0 petrol is a good compromise, fairly powerful at 156ps, it will do 40mpg on the motorway and 30mpg around town. No cambelt to change as its a chain, keep it running on Honda 0w20 oil and it will run forever.
Just valve clearance to check at 75k miles.
Re canbus, I think you mean can you change to led bulbs without errors. You can, no problems.

 

[freddofrog]

I was referring to the warning that the canbus system give you when you have a bulb failure.. sorry I should have made that clear, as they did not use the feature on the 8th gen model.

Me bad
Andy

yeah you'd need to read the DTC's (with a good quality OBD-II reader, possibly HDS) to find a bulb failure (I'm not sure that the 7th gen pre-facelift will give a DTC for a bulb failure).


edit: Honda claimed that the 2003 7th gen was the first family saloon car with CAN-bus, but I think that the way the OBD Port interfaces to it changes on the facelift car.