Brakes Binding

[Diesel Dave]

Hi my previous topic of mot failure has not helped with the brakes so i will run through what has been done and see if any one can help me with possible soloutions.

car has been in two seperate garages and none seem to be able to diagnose the fault had aa look at it he cant understand either .

car had advisory on mot for Rear brakes binding now i have replaced both flexi hoses and fitted refurb calipers cleaned and fitted new caliper slide pins and ratiners .

still brakes bind.

picked up car car from garage sat morning on way into work arrived at work both rear wheels binding.
there fix was try new brake pads what diddnt work i stripped it down again myself this morning and noticed they have fitted the rear pad (inner pad ) with the squeal indicator facing up whitch is oppisite to the honda diagrams on lings ., is this inportant or can we ignore this?
also if anyone nos a brake specalist in the northants area can you let me know .

 

[Reiver]

Brake master cylinder would be my next guess but be careful of throwing money at guesses. A master cylinders usual failure mode is leaking seals causing spongy brakes but swollen seals or stuck pistons can cause binding too. Not sure if this guide applies to our Accords exactly.

The incorrect squeal indicator location won't cause binding. When inside brake pad is worn, instead of ringing like a tuning fork being pulled by disc rotation away from the brake pad it'll be being pushed with the discs rotation against the brake pad (and wear the disc slightly more but you'll change the pad quickly due to the noise).

 

[SayamaAccord]

Just wonder if it might be the VSA or ABS system causing this.

Sounds like you need to get a garage to trace & locate the fault.

 

[Diesel Dave]

Just wonder if it might be the VSA or ABS system causing this.

Sounds like you need to get a garage to trace & locate the fault.

think i might have cured it bearing in mind been to 2 garages and aa looked at it , i was reading all the posts on here about brakes trying to find the fault .
i had previously cleaned the caliper retainers and behind , i took them out bolted it back together no more brake binding. so i did not have access to a grinder to grind some of pad ear away but found my old honda pads i think there are anyway not brilliant but not down to min so cleaned it al up again bolted back with retainers intact and all appears free will take it for test drive later but i never got thm free like this before.

bought mintex pads of ebay sanded the ends down to metal before fitting no joy garage 2 fitted cheap pads still binding so will order genuine pads and refit must have been unlucky normally pads dont cause so many headaches.

 

[SayamaAccord]

hope it's sorted, only £40 odd from Honda so a cheap fix

 

[apintofmild]

You're certain there's no handbrake involvement (separate shoes)?

 

[Diesel Dave]

You're certain there's no handbrake involvement (separate shoes)?

hi yes its not handbrake it was the pads (inner) being pushed hard against disc and unable to retract put old honda pads in and the problem went away .
The caliper carrier was cleaned behind the retainers before the pads were fitted, so the pattern parts were causing it will get the oem ones instead .

 

[edgeoftime]

The new pads probably had too much paint on them, file it off were they touch the carrier, i.e make them rattle in the slots, this should do the trick. Also I had an enthusiastic garage adjust the handbrake down to three clicks an the lever, result burned out handbrake shoes. I do them myself since then, it is not rocket science, Good luck with it.

 

[pwf]

just had exactly the same problem/symptoms.
Replaced caliper,brake hose and slider pins.
Turned out that it was the Mintex pattern brake pads that i had previously fitted.
The genuine Honda pads are completely flat where they meet the piston whereas the pattern ones have a locating lug (for the anti rattle shim) that fouls the piston and causes the binding.
Hope this helps anyone in the future?