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hobbes748

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Hi Folks. I ordered a new oil filter and I'm not convinced it's the right one (although the supplier remains adamant it is). It's not a genuine Honda - money's very tight at the moment or it would have been genuine - but that aside the one that arrived was just a plain paper filter. This is my first oil change since I got the car about 4K ago, but I thought the correct filter had rubber threaded ends on it. Does it? Do the ends get transferred to the new filter element or have they just sent me the wrong filter? Can you take the filter cover off the car without making a huge mess to have a look?

Thanks.
 
Should be a cylindrical filter with a hole down the middle. It should come with 3 different sized rubber rings that replace the ones on the central spigot bit (the bit that you unscrew). the filter itself doesn't have any rubber bits on you just need to replace the rings on the plastic central doofer (technical term).
 
HuskyMan said:
Should be a cylindrical filter with a hole down the middle. It should come with 3 different sized rubber rings that replace the ones on the central spigot bit (the bit that you unscrew). the filter itself doesn't have any rubber bits on you just need to replace the rings on the plastic central doofer (technical term).
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Thanks! That describes perfectly what they sent me, so I guess it must be the right one. Strange - Lings shows the filter as having black rubber shoulders on it.
 
hobbes748 said:
Thanks! That describes perfectly what they sent me, so I guess it must be the right one. Strange - Lings shows the filter as having black rubber shoulders on it.
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My oil filter DID have black rubber 'shoulders' on it, like a moulded on rubber gasket at each end. And it did also come with the three O-rings (pretty sure you would get away with re-using these).
 
You can unscrew and take off the old filter without making too much mess, just make sure the engines been off for at least 30 mins. Probably a good idea to do this by the sound of it.

First time I changed mine (in 2008) my local spares place gave me the wrong filter.
 
I think it's this one you want:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/280995305002

If you're changing for non-Honda I'd advise changing it again in 1000 miles..... for a Honda one!
 
This one is non-Honda, but shows what the ends look like... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-Accord-CRV-CR-V-FR-V-FRV-2003-2-2-CDTi-diesel-oil-filter-/190754172992?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&fits=Car+Make%3AHonda%7CModel%3AAccord&hash=item2c69d5b040
 
Jon_G said:
This one is non-Honda, but shows what the ends look like... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-Accord-CRV-CR-V-FR-V-FRV-2003-2-2-CDTi-diesel-oil-filter-/190754172992?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&fits=Car+Make%3AHonda%7CModel%3AAccord&hash=item2c69d5b040
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Yup - the one I got looks nothing like that. Grrrr............
 
Jon_G said:
Was it much cheaper than the genuine Honda unit on eBay that HuskyMan suggested?
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About half the price.

Like I mentioned earlier, I would have bought the real thing but I'm skint (or just about to be). My first child arrived 3 weeks ago, quickly followed by a burst intercooler and a wailing turbo (so an oil change needed too). I'm getting it in the neck for spending all the kiddie fund + more on car repairs (and quite rightly so I suppose) but I just can't afford to 'just buy genuine Honda' for everything as every penny counts at the moment.
 
Fair point, but the price of the oil will dominate the total cost of the job.

Congrats on recently becoming a father!
 
Steve next time mate don't forget our discount code with HH it might not work out any more for the filter.
 
Jon_G said:
Fair point, but the price of the oil will dominate the total cost of the job.

Congrats on recently becoming a father!
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Thank you!

I guess we learn from our mistakes (buying the wrong filter - not becoming a father). I think the major cost for me will be what Midland Turbo charge for reconditioning my unit. :(
 
edgeoftime said:
FIT THE RIGHT FILTER FOR ABOUT £11?? Too dear, or replace the engine for about £4500, your choice I know what I would be doing
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Slight exaggeration, maybe?

It is possible to buy filters (whether oil, air, fuel or pollen) from places other than Honda that will be more than adequate for the job. The only reason to buy service parts from Honda is that you can be fairly sure that the part you then get will be adequate for the job... although obviously this couldn't be said about early versions of the clutch ***embly if you were a diesel owner! You obviously run a risk when buying filters, etc, from suppliers other than Honda, but if you're properly informed about what you're actually getting in the box and buy from a reputable manufacturer, then there's little risk, in fact you may even get parts superior to OEM. A good example would be the fuel filter for the 7th gen diesel... when I first joined TA I was advised to only buy the replacement from Honda, which I did. I was a bit disappointed to later discover that the exact same Bosch part was available at EuroCarParts for almost exactly half the price. I don't care what anyone says, same Bosch part number = same part (as you would expect from an ISO9000 registered company).

I bet not many people go to Honda when they need new tyres or lamps, do they?
 
Jon_G said:
Slight exaggeration, maybe?

It is possible to buy filters (whether oil, air, fuel or pollen) from places other than Honda that will be more than adequate for the job. The only reason to buy service parts from Honda is that you can be fairly sure that the part you then get will be adequate for the job... although obviously this couldn't be said about early versions of the clutch ***embly if you were a diesel owner! You obviously run a risk when buying filters, etc, from suppliers other than Honda, but if you're properly informed about what you're actually getting in the box and buy from a reputable manufacturer, then there's little risk, in fact you may even get parts superior to OEM. A good example would be the fuel filter for the 7th gen diesel... when I first joined TA I was advised to only buy the replacement from Honda, which I did. I was a bit disappointed to later discover that the exact same Bosch part was available at EuroCarParts for almost exactly half the price. I don't care what anyone says, same Bosch part number = same part (as you would expect from an ISO9000 registered company).

I bet not many people go to Honda when they need new tyres or lamps, do they?
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Yea your right re the bosch numbers and have not problem with that, but an unknown from a knock down shop, come on now!!
 
edgeoftime said:
Yea your right re the bosch numbers and have not problem with that, but an unknown from a knock down shop, come on now!!
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Well I suppose it doesn't look promising that they're giving out incorrect parts, so point taken!

I would also be a little suspicious of "genuine Honda" filters being sold on eBay.

Mann (Mann+Hummel) are probably a safe non-Honda option and are widely available.
 
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