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[Guide] Intake Manifold Upgrade on K24Z3 engine (RSP/RBC/RRC/etc)

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A common upgrade for K-Series engines is changing the intake manifold. Generally speaking, these swap a little low end torque for increased high end power. Additionally, at least in my opinion, they do also look a lot cooler in the engine bay than the (partially) plastic one our cars received!

The actual choice of intake manifold is a very divisive one - I think most can agree that the RRC manifold (From the JDM Civic Type R FD2) is probably the "best" for peak power but it's also expensive to buy, around £600. I went for the RSP manifold from the FN2 as with the improved T7Design trumpets installed it appears to perform just as well for a lot less (~£250 in total) -
- there are also some cheap manifolds available on eBay that are copies of Skunk2 parts but to be honest, I would go for an OEM one as the build quality is much better.

Parts I used:

A suitable intake manifold - I went with the RSP from FN2 Civic Type R for £100 from Facebook Marketplace - I was quite lucky as it was new in box. One good thing about the RSP is that it has a removable plenum cover so you can open it to clean it/port it as desired, so I don't think a used one would be too much of a problem, even high mileage. I also fitted the T7Design trumpets inside the manifold https://www.t7design.co.uk/honda-k20z4-rsp-inlet-manifold-velocity-stack-raw-billet-810-ad3-2d3.html - or alternatively you can also fit RRC/RBC/etc. manifolds with the adapter kit below as long as they have a coolant port. If they don't have a coolant port, or you are feeling brave you can fit a coolant bypass adapter to the head as per the Milan Mastracci video - I didn't go down this route myself, particularly as you have to tap a thread into the head.

PRL intake manifold and (stock) throttle body adapter kit https://prlmotorsports.com/products...1&_sid=ecbef6249&_ss=r&variant=41433242468545

P2R injector adapters and rail spacers
https://powerrevracing.com/products/9th-gen-si-injector-adapters-rbc-manifold
Alternatively you could also fit RDX or other suitable injectors with appropriate wiring harness adapters e.g. https://prlmotorsports.com/products/2012-2015-9th-gen-civic-rdx-injector-plug-n-play-clips

Drill and die grinding bit to port match the throttle body opening (I used this one https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0931QMZYR/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
The RSP is 62mm and the stock throttle body is 64.5mm so you don't need to remove a huge amount of material

Throttle body wiring extension harness:
The connector for the throttle body no longer reaches its new position so I purchased this pre-wired connector from Aliexpress (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/100...o.order_list.order_list_main.5.3bed1802NQ0SHo), cut off the original connector and crimped it onto the wiring to extend the length.
There is a plug and play extension harness sold from the USA but it's extremely expensive for what it is (https://www.casperselectronics.com/cart/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=881)

DC5/EP3 "extra clearance" upper radiator hose - Gates part number 21229 - not strictly necessary but moves the hose away from the throttle body area making it easier to connect intake piping. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/404025369437?_ul=GB

Approx 6 litres of coolant to refill the system after draining. I used Comma Xstream G30 ready mixed coolant as it's what my local motor factors had - Honda OEM probably better but i'm sure it doesn't make a huge difference. A spill-free funnel is a good tool to have for this - I recently invested in a Sealey VS0045 which I can fully recommend.

Gasket paper (I used a sheet of Flexoid 1.6mm paper and cut it with a snap-off knife) to create a gasket from the TB adapter to manifold, if required.

4x Stock injector o-rings. Mine were badly perished so I would recommend replacing them regardless of condition for peace of mind. (Honda part number 91302-R40-A11 - I got mine from Cox Motor Parts. Not hugely expensive around £12 inc delivery.)

Hose tee with 10mm-4mm-10mm fittings for connecting a vacuum line to run to the "vacuum ***isted" engine mount solenoid - I used https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/280632956898

A can of spray silicone lubricant to aid installing hoses/o-rings.

Some 10mm I/D hose and appropriate clamps to re-run any vacuum hoses as required

3/8" vacuum port plug for for the port nearest the fuel rail on the manifold as it won't be used. I bought https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/134787543181 and also plugged the throttle body coolant ports with them.

Liquid PTFE thread sealant for the coolant plug in the manifold and the vacuum line barb in the throttle body adapter plate

Installation notes:

There is a great video from Milan Mastracci who does a great job of explaining the steps which i'd recommend watching first
He used the coolant bypass method rather than the PRL adapter but the rest of it is (mostly) the same

I recommend draining the coolant out of the radiator drain plug first to avoid any mess, especially if you're going to replace radiator and coolant hoses etc. A good opportunity to refresh the coolant regardless!

The parts in the PRL kit aren't labelled so i've done my best to annotate below!

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Once the factory manifold is removed all 3 of the mounting studs need to be removed first before you attempt to install the manifold. It's not possible to get the manifold into place with them installed. You can use a stud remover tool or the "2 nut" method to wind them out of the head. The PRL kit comes with 2x replacement studs which replace the two studs on the top section of the manifold. The third stud near the coolant port is not used and replaced with a bolt.

The top left bolt of the manifold has bad access due to our belt setup being placed a bit more awkwardly than on the Civic. You have to put a single bolt in the right hand side of the manifold, then rotate it up and out of the way, put the bolt through the manifold and adapter, then rotate it back into position and tighten the bolt.

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Our cars have a vacuum controlled engine mount which is mounted to the stock manifold, the mounting point for which no longer exists on the replacement manifold. I tucked the corner of its bracket behind the top left bolt for the manifold as shown below. I've not had any issues with this but If you wanted a more solid attachment you could possibly bend the bracket and bolt the manifold through it

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There is a vacuum line going to the engine mount solenoid which needs to be plumbed in. I used a 10mm/4mm/10mm tee as above connected to the nearest vacuum line.

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If you haven't already bypassed the coolant lines for the throttle body, the shorter hose in the PRL kit is used for this purpose. I used a couple of 5/16" vacuum line plugs to cover the fittings on the TB.

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The intake manifold "side" of the PRL throttle body adapter is the wrong shape for the RSP manifold I used so I removed the supplier o-ring and made my own gasket out of gasket paper instead

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As the throttle body position has moved you will need to do at least some element of custom intake piping. I used a piece of flexible silicone hose to join up with my K&N induction kit but i'm sure there are better methods out there.

Here is my finished installation

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If anything is not clear let me know!
 
Thanks for the excellent write up. It’s all very clear and makes sense to me. My only question is do you need Hondata before attempting this mod, or could you add it afterwards?
 
Thanks for the excellent write up. It’s all very clear and makes sense to me. My only question is do you need Hondata before attempting this mod, or could you add it afterwards?
I've got a flashpro on my car but I'm just on the basemap at the moment, only tweaked a few settings like disabled the secondary O2 sensor, lowered VTEC slightly and removed the "rev hang"

Because the throttle body and injectors haven't been changed I think it's ok on a generic/base map. My car runs fine I plan to get a custom map eventually just waiting until I have an exhaust fitted, hopefully in a few weeks. Doesn't make sense to map the car once then potentially have to get it mapped a second time

I did consider fitting RDX injectors and possibly a bigger throttle body but I didn't see any really convincing evidence that those mods are needed for the power level our cars are likely to achieve (at most 230whp).
 
If you don't fancy paying 85 quid for a bunch of wires and two connectors...
Yazaki 7282-1968-30 (male)
Yazaki 7283-1968-30 (female)
effin thieves.

There's also manifold gasket only available if you don't fancy spending 200 for the adapter kit:
 
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Can you reuse the stock bolts holding the injector base in place to secure the manifold or do you need longer ones/studs? I bought the TB adapter and thermal gasket separately as I had all the other bits laying around so that's the only thing I'm missing.
 
Can you reuse the stock bolts holding the injector base in place to secure the manifold or do you need longer ones/studs? I bought the TB adapter and thermal gasket separately as I had all the other bits laying around so that's the only thing I'm missing.
If you are using different injectors (e.g. RDX) I believe the stock bolts can get re-used as you don't need any adaptors for them to fit the holes.

If you are planning to re-use stock injectors then because of the injector adapter cups making the injectors sit higher you need longer bolts + and ideally some kind of spacer behind (maybe you can just use a stack of washers or whatever - I think the bolts are M6)

I did notice a chinese clone kit has showed up on aliexpress recently btw which might make it a bit more cost effective https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007501031969.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.1.4ecc61f8lCz1Xv&algo_pvid=3e8819eb-3bcc-48b7-a77b-54b4538340b4&algo_exp_id=3e8819eb-3bcc-48b7-a77b-54b4538340b4-0&pdp_npi=4@dis!GBP!8.89!8.89!!!11.52!11.52!@211b6c7017272043361106718e579e!12000041041696701!sea!UK!1799239955!X&curPageLogUid=f9zgjFcN88yJ&utparam-url=scene:search|query_from: can't speak to the quality but it's not exactly a complicated part so should be fine
 
Can you reuse the stock bolts holding the injector base in place to secure the manifold or do you need longer ones/studs? I bought the TB adapter and thermal gasket separately as I had all the other bits laying around so that's the only thing I'm missing.
I just realised - were you asking about the injector rail or the manifold to head? I know the Honda terminology is "injector base" but that always confuses me as that makes me think fuel rail
 
Manifold to head, I have the P2R fuel rail spacers already.
Yes, I think so. I rewatched the video and he doesn't mention any different bolts - I think these are only necessary for the PRL kit as their metal gasket adds a bit of thickness.
 
Nice, thanks. Now I just need to figure out how to plumb the manifold to the airbox before swapping it out.
 
Nice, thanks. Now I just need to figure out how to plumb the manifold to the airbox before swapping it out.

Here's a couple of images from my notes that I had to help with that question - the flexible hose I used isn't great so maybe there's a better solution, but it does work. I think to connect to stock airbox you basically need a 45 degree piece of silicone hose, but im not sure what diameter - I think the stock TB outlet is 70mm OD


 
A little update on the matter:

Top left stud *needs* removing, if you grind it down like I did you won't have enough left to put a nut on it with the manifold in place. Lesson #1.
Bottom left bolt is an absolute nightmare fuel for access - I had no luck trying to tighten it, socket is no good and ratcheting spanners are too big. Good 12 point spanner and some make-a-sailor-blush language while moving it 1/8th of a turn at a time seems to be the only way. Lesson #2.
Do not trust strangers online saying "it's a bolt on job it'll be fine". Had to run an open filter with the piping held with zipties while waiting for next day delivery. Lesson #3.
Don't be a silly bugger and start chasing vacuum leaks before making sure all bolts are tight. Lesson #4.

If anyone wishes to plumb it into the stock airbox, 70mm ID 45deg coupler and a joiner is all you need. Thanks again @btjtaylor.
Already missing the intake growl but it's a worthy tradeoff for being able to clearly hear the crossover at 5000+!
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Good job! If nothing else I reckon it looks way better in the engine bay than the plastic one. Well done for figuring out connector too, I think that works fine for the stock airbox - for my K&N setup unfortunately its not the right angle as that has a totally different pipe "topology".

Did you use just the thermal gasket in the end? no coolant leaks?
 
Correct, thermal gasket only. It did weep coolant at first but admittedly I torqued the manifold by feel - too lazy to drive an hour both ways to borrow a torque wrench off a friend.
Round two with a bit more oomph seems to have helped.

I'll try and design a bracket for the engine mount solenoid over the next week and post the results here if they're any good.
 
Correct, thermal gasket only. It did weep coolant at first but admittedly I torqued the manifold by feel - too lazy to drive an hour both ways to borrow a torque wrench off a friend.
Round two with a bit more oomph seems to have helped.

I'll try and design a bracket for the engine mount solenoid over the next week and post the results here if they're any good.
That's good to know, that adapter is very expensive for what it is, and I can see the rubber o-rings failing way more quickly than a traditional gasket - the only real advantage I could see is that it matches up the coolant port holes - but it makes installation of the bolts even harder due to the thickness

Yes one of the "legs" of the bracket of my solenoid is just jammed in behind the bolt at the moment but it doesn't seem to be causing a problem - I do need to replace the hose though as I found that its split - need to get the car up on the ramp again to see where it's going as i think it connects to the bottom of the engine mount, the exploded diagram is really hard to follow
 
@btjtaylor Update on the situation, noticed the coolant level ever so slightly dropping over time so I pulled the manifold to see if it's going anywhere it shouldn't be going...
And it's going inside cylinder #4.

I'm gonna have to send a very angry email to P2R because their website claims this gasket can be used to bolt up RBC/RRC to R40 head which have the exact same coolant passage as RSP.
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****, that's not good. Hopefully it didn't damage anything as its probably only a small leak (I guess you would've had a problem by now if it had!). A bit cowboy but maybe some hondabond around the coolant port would fix it? That or the coolant adaptor, or PRL kit.

Getting my car remote tuned on Sunday evening with a guy in the USA - was trying to get it booked in with Dynodaze but they've not been that responsive and to be honest, I could do with at least a basemap on the car just to get it driving a bit better before I venture far. I did start reading a load of stuff about it and could have a go myself but i'd have to really ask a family member to drive me around in the car for hours which isn't really fair. Once the fuel/ignition is dialled in I can tweak things myself I reckon. Still want a dyno printout at some point though I know you can go down there on a saturday and get one for £50 I think.

I think I did figure out whats causing my throttle response problems - after doing some datalogging on the factory map and hondata's basemap the knock control is going really wild with retarding the timings which seems to explain my throttle response issue. In terms of actual knocks its only recording 1 or 2 every few mins so im pretty sure it's not actually got a knock problem. I'm not sure specifically which mod has caused this but it seems like all the tuners just desensitize/disable the knock routine anyway so I don't think it matters. From what I can understand from research the knock routine is more for dealing with bad/low RON fuel rather than any kind of engine protection.

Done a whole bunch of other stuff like finally got the Tsudo exhaust on, RDX injectors and K-tuned fuel rail - will post some pics up when the car's driving again - currently battling with the last bolt of the rear arms which is stuck inside the bushing and destroyed all my recip saw blades (to be fair, using mild steel blades, when I should've been using carbide tip ones ...)
 
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P2R's reply to my email...

A bit funny how it doesn't work on the K24Z3 but works on the Z7 even though cylinder head is the same Honda P/N and the coolant passage on the RSP and RBC is the same?
 
That's just plain wrong as far as I understand it too - I think machining the manifold is the ultimate solution though I saw that on another post from years ago where someone did that - I think from the guy in Switzerland I found - matched the RSP mani to the head

Got my car partially e-tuned last night but we ran into an issue with inconsistent AFR readings on multiple pulls with the same tune

When I fitted my downpipe the O2 sensor was stuck in the OEM pipe and the threads got stripped on the way out. I had to get a Febi one as a replacement as at the time I couldnt find a Denso / Honda OEM one in stock anywhere for a reasonable price. I've ordered a Denso one (DOX-0561) which I am hoping should solve the issue. Failing that, its possible there is a vacuum leak somewhere, atlhough I'm pretty sure there is not as surely we'd see something at idle too? I sprayed brake cleaner everywhere at idle and nothing at all. Hopefully be finished soon ... getting close ...
 
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