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Accord 2007 left rear wheel alignment problem

DJSR

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Hi all, just joined this great looking forum.

I have a Honda Accord 2007 2.2i CTDi, and the rear left wheel is not sitting straight, the top of the wheel is looking outwards. I have spoken to a few Honda mechanics who have said it could be the spindel on the rear axel beam, some others have said it could be the bushes or camber.

Yesterday i took the car for a 4 wheel alignment test, the fronts were perfect, but the backs were out of alignment. The tester said it could be the cambers.

Can anyone help me out please on what it could possibly be, i know its difficult without looking at the car, but the car pulls to the left and i have just put some new Kumho tyres on, dont want to waste them with the pulling problem.

Cheers in Adavnce.
 
DJSR said:
Hi all, just joined this great looking forum.

I have a Honda Accord 2007 2.2i CTDi, and the rear left wheel is not sitting straight, the top of the wheel is looking outwards. I have spoken to a few Honda mechanics who have said it could be the spindel on the rear axel beam, some others have said it could be the bushes or camber.

Yesterday i took the car for a 4 wheel alignment test, the fronts were perfect, but the backs were out of alignment. The tester said it could be the cambers.

Can anyone help me out please on what it could possibly be, i know its difficult without looking at the car, but the car pulls to the left and i have just put some new Kumho tyres on, dont want to waste them with the pulling problem.

Cheers in Adavnce.

If the wheel align man could not come up with a cause or solution you were in the wrong workshop.
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Cheers for the info Mr Honda & edgeoftime, i will show my mechanic, he's popping over tonight to service the cars. Hopefully i can sort this problem out, will let you know how i get on.

Also, just wanted to let you know that the top of the tyre on rear left is pointing inwards not outwards.
 
Sounds like you need a trip to WIM, they will tell you what the problem is and do the geometry properly - http://www.wheels-inmotion.co.uk/

The Accord has adjustable rear and front toe but it does sound like something could be bent if the top of the tyre is pointing inwards. Do you have a photo?
 
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Don't go to WIM!!!
 
Serg is this the only side you have the problem on.
This to me looks like a very bad -camber.You will need to check all arms on the rear suspension for signs of damage.Also the ball joint and any other suspension part.
Also have you got the alignment printout to post up.Do you have any knocking coming from that side of the car at all and has the car been lowered.
 
brett said:
Serg is this the only side you have the problem on.
This to me looks like a very bad -camber.You will need to check all arms on the rear suspension for signs of damage.Also the ball joint and any other suspension part.
Also have you got the alignment printout to post up.Do you have any knocking coming from that side of the car at all and has the car been lowered.
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Hi Brett, thanks for the reply.

this is the only side i have the problem with, when i took the car for an alignment test the fronts were perfect, the backs were out, unfortunately i dont have a printout as one wasnt provided, maybe i can ask them to give me one.

Also, just recently, i started to get a humming/whining sound coming from the front left wheel when i turned right, which could be a bearing. I'm now worried that the car may have been in an accident due to the bent wheel at the back, but my mechanic is coming on thursday to jack the car up and look at the bent wheel at the rear left.

As far as i know, the car hant been lowered, even though i purchased the vehicle second hand, i've had it for 2 years now, and the front left and rear left tyres show more wear then the right side. I changed the tyres from 225/45/17 to 225/50/17 to help with the pulling to the left, which helped but still showing signs of wear on the left side.
 
Also, just incase i need a bearing & camber, where would you recommend to get a decent one at a decent price please?? cheers.

I've looked on the net for a camber and on ebay the japspeed's are £99 and Eibach Rear Camber Adjustable Arms (Pair) £184.60. Will i need to change both Cambers at the rear?
 
Tbo I would always go genuin Honda equipment if available.
Give Hh a call for a quote when you no what parts you need.
If you do need adjustable arms you need to do both sides.
But if your car is standerd you shouldn't need them
 
brett said:
Tbo I would always go genuin Honda equipment if available.
Give Hh a call for a quote when you no what parts you need.
If you do need adjustable arms you need to do both sides.
But if your car is standerd you shouldn't need them
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Who are Hh mate??
 
Holdcroft Honda... they are in the 'affiliates' section. TA members can get quite reasonable discounts with them, but you need to have a discount code from a mod.

Can you find out if your car been repaired after suffering serious damage?
 
Jon_G said:
Holdcroft Honda... they are in the 'affiliates' section. TA members can get quite reasonable discounts with them, but you need to have a discount code from a mod.

Can you find out if your car been repaired after suffering serious damage?
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Hi Jon,

Cheers for the info, will take a look, hopefully an admin can sort me out a discount code.

I suppose the only way to find out if the car was involved in an accident is to do a vehicle check which will cost.
 
brett said:
Serg is this the only side you have the problem on.
This to me looks like a very bad -camber.You will need to check all arms on the rear suspension for signs of damage.Also the ball joint and any other suspension part.
Also have you got the alignment printout to post up.Do you have any knocking coming from that side of the car at all and has the car been lowered.
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Got the alignment done yesterday, heres the printout. Didnt make any difference at all, the car still pulls to the left. The alignment tester said its how the car has been setup as the wheels at the rear bend outwards as they do on most cars, so i asked him how comes the right wheel is straight then and the left isnt? no answer. Anyways, the rears were slightly off and they adjusted it, apparently, heres the printouts.

http://s13.postimg.org/5soj1o45z/Alignment0001_edit.jpg

http://s2.postimg.org/7h9mngpyh/Alignment0002_edit.jpg

Also, my mechanic had a thorough check and couldnt see any bent arms or previous accidents, although it could of been fixed if it had been in a accident before and not visible. Not sure what else to do, maybe a trip to Honda for them to take a look, but they will probably charge silly money.
 
I forgot to check back to this thread. You should've gone to WIM mate, you're only 40 minutes away and they would have found the issue straight away. I would forget about camber kits and find out what has actually caused the wheel to end up in that position. Looking at the report the NSR camber is alot deeper than the OSR.

Just because something doesn't look bent doesn't mean it isn't! ;) All of the rear arms and even the knuckle need to be checked, my money is on one of those.
 
-Rich- said:
I forgot to check back to this thread. You should've gone to WIM mate, you're only 40 minutes away and they would have found the issue straight away. I would forget about camber kits and find out what has actually caused the wheel to end up in that position. Looking at the report the NSR camber is alot deeper than the OSR.

Just because something doesn't look bent doesn't mean it isn't! ;) All of the rear arms and even the knuckle need to be checked, my money is on one of those.
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I think i will have to go to WIM then, how much would they charge ?

Chesham is a bit of a trek though.
 
DJSR said:
I think i will have to go to WIM then, how much would they charge ?

Chesham is a bit of a trek though.
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To look at it probably nothing but I've pointed Tony to this thread so he can advise on that.

Chesham ain't far, get on the M25 to J18 and it's 10 minutes from there. It only takes me half an hour to get to Enfield and that's further than where you are.
 
Looking at the print-outs, you definitely have more negative camber on the rear LH. So more negative camber means more pull on that side of the car, to correct this you would have to keep the wheel turned slightly to the right, Actually, I think you camber is out of spec. Let me check.
 
The spec for the Rear Camber is actually 1 degree + or - 30 minutes, so actually the rear is within specification, as is the front.

In the garages defence, the alignment readings look right to me and all within spec. When you say its a pull, is it a definitive pull? If you hold the wheel straight does the car go straight or does it drift left?
 
i have to hold the steering wheel slightly to the right for the car to go straight, so if i hold the steering straight it will go to the left slightly. On the motorway my hand can hurt a little from constantly holding the steering to the right.
 
Ok, I had this problem on my tourer despite countless "alignments". What actually happened is that I hopped the rear wheel off a curb and knocked the alignment out.

in the end, I had to dictate the alignments I needed and managed to get this right. I am super sensitive to a car pulling. Let me get a copy of my alignment report and upload it for you.
 
-Rich- said:
To look at it probably nothing but I've pointed Tony to this thread so he can advise on that.

Chesham ain't far, get on the M25 to J18 and it's 10 minutes from there. It only takes me half an hour to get to Enfield and that's further than where you are.
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Thanks Rich, its not to far thinking about it, just past Amersham.
 
jayok said:
Ok, I had this problem on my tourer despite countless "alignments". What actually happened is that I hopped the rear wheel off a curb and knocked the alignment out.

in the end, I had to dictate the alignments I needed and managed to get this right. I am super sensitive to a car pulling. Let me get a copy of my alignment report and upload it for you.
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Ok cheers Jason. But why is the rear left wheel bent compared to the right? this must surely be the problem.
 
From the photo you posted it looks like NSR has significant negative camber. But the report tells us that the difference between the NSR and OSR is only 20 minutes - that's nothing and a heavier passenger could extract that sort of camber.

Your front and rear toe are also within line, along with the thrust angle. I have a feeling that its a combination of factors giving the (frustrating pull). I've been where you were and it took me nearly six months to sort!!

I ***ume you don't have a collapsed spring? Can you check the distance between the top of each wheel and wheel arch. Nothing too scientific, just is the distance the same (use your fingers)
 
Ok, here's my alignment. Note, I'm out of spec on the camber on the NSR of the car. But it's minimal - 12' .

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