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Accord 2007 left rear wheel alignment problem

3 fingers from the top of the wheel to the arch on on left side , right side 3.2, but the car is on my drive which is slanted a bit, but not much.
 
Nah, that's not enough of a difference between the two sides.

Does the left side really look like it has more negative camber than the right - to the naked eye? Because your alignment report isn't showing it.
 
jayok said:
Nah, that's not enough of a difference between the two sides.

Does the left side really look like it has more negative camber than the right - to the naked eye? Because your alignment report isn't showing it.
Yes, you can see from the picture i posted that the rear left is negative compared to the rear right. One other thing i thought i'd mention, is my front left bearing is starting to make a noise when i turn right, could this cause a pull to the left at all??
 
This what Tony said:

As for the rear camber I'm not really concerned with that, The pull may be the tyres so they need moving but looking at it the NSF it has positive camber combined with a low castor compared to the OSF negative camber and more positive castor.
So you could try swapping the front tyres over to see if it pulls the other way, if it does it's likely to be those. If they are directional tyres don't worry about fitting them this way, it's only to test for the pull, you just need to drive up the road and back.

I have driven a few cars with very bad pulls that have been caused by the tyres. Part worns, different tread depths, different brands all contribute, even mismatched tyres don't help, i.e. the colour band you get on new tyres - http://www.wheels-inmotion.co.uk/forum/index.php?showtopic=165

With the camber/castor angles the subframe may need dropping and moved to get the angles more even. Has it been dropped before for any kind of work?
 
Sorry for the delay in answering, been working. But the front left wheel has become more noisey since i last posted. When i turn right, the left wheel is giving off a scraping noise and when i hit the breaks the noise decreases. Dirty/sticking caliper maybe causing the pull?? I've called my mechanic to have a look at the front left wheel.
 
The scraping noise might be your pads on there limit. The noise is from the warning spring built into the pad
 
brett said:
The scraping noise might be your pads on there limit. The noise is from the warning spring built into the pad

I've checked the pads mate, still got loads on them and only just changed them recently. But whats with the pulling to the left?? its doing my head in now and hurting my hand from constantly holding the wheel to the right, i just cant seem to fix this problem, running out of patience here, will flog the motor if i cant sort this out.
 
Serg worth checking your front drop links Jon had one snap a few weeks back.This might be the noise and the cause of pulling to the left.Also check for uneven wear on the inside and outside of all your tyres.
TBH though I think the pulling to the left is still the difference in rear camber by your read out.
The max difference should be 0.30 between wheels and your over that.
 
DJSR said:
I've checked the pads mate, still got loads on them and only just changed them recently. But whats with the pulling to the left?? its doing my head in now and hurting my hand from constantly holding the wheel to the right, i just cant seem to fix this problem, running out of patience here, will flog the motor if i cant sort this out.
Did you swap the front wheels over to see if it pulls the other way?
 
Just to add more confusion here, as I noted, you're alignment looks good from the printout. It is possibly something else. If you're getting a dragging bearing, wheel, then it will pull in that direction. Now you may not notice the drag when the wheel is jacked up, as the car is unloaded, so if you're getting a noise, then that has to be fixed anyway.

If it's a bearing, then the hub has to be removed, which will generally mean a re-alignment (hammering at the suspension)
 
-Rich- said:
Did you swap the front wheels over to see if it pulls the other way?
Yep tried that previously with many different tyres, still pulled.
 
Dave G said:
Have you checked the wheel bearing too?
My mechanic is coming tomorrow to do a detailed check, he thinks he might be the bushes. he popped over yesterday and we took the accord for a drive, and typically, it didnt make the noise whilst driving about, but it was raining???? However, he noticed the heavy pulling to the left, which is now getting worse!

I have uneven wear on the left front compared to the right front. the rears seem to be wearing evenly.
 
If it is getting worse then hopefully you will soon find the fault. I would have hoped that the garage doing the alignment would have spotted any worn bushes.
 
DJSR said:
My mechanic is coming tomorrow to do a detailed check, he thinks he might be the bushes. he popped over yesterday and we took the accord for a drive, and typically, it didnt make the noise whilst driving about, but it was raining???? However, he noticed the heavy pulling to the left, which is now getting worse!

I have uneven wear on the left front compared to the right front. the rears seem to be wearing evenly.
The camber and castor angles on the front will cause the car to pull left, the road camber will make it worse. Look for signs of the subframe having been moved.
 
Have you uneven wear on the front since your alignment was done? do you have spare set of rims to try on the car now, before anything else is touched?

Put the rears on the front and vice versa, and take it for a spin on roads that you normally feel the pull. Make sure all tyres are correctly fitted, as in directionally.
 
ok, my mechanic has recommended to change the left front wheel bearing. I rang Honda in Enfield and they have quoted me £70.

Is that a decent price?? Also would i need to change both front bearings, as back in the days of older cars, both bearings were changed, but with newer cars i think we can only change the one side.

I'm going to get the part today from Honda.
 
Mr Honda said:
Have you uneven wear on the front since your alignment was done? do you have spare set of rims to try on the car now, before anything else is touched?

Put the rears on the front and vice versa, and take it for a spin on roads that you normally feel the pull. Make sure all tyres are correctly fitted, as in directionally.
I've tried all that since i purchased the car 2 years ago, every set of tyres, alloys have been switched around and tested on the roads. The car still pulls to the left.
 
DJSR said:
ok, my mechanic has recommended to change the left front wheel bearing. I rang Honda in Enfield and they have quoted me £70.

Is that a decent price?? Also would i need to change both front bearings, as back in the days of older cars, both bearings were changed, but with newer cars i think we can only change the one side.

I'm going to get the part today from Honda.
Just rang Honda to see if the item was in stock, and now their quoting me £105 !! C****
 
Japarts just quoted me £70 for a blueprint. trying to get a discount code off Brett, will try holdcraft
 
I was thinking £70 was cheap for a front bearing.
I was quoted £130 for my 8th gen last year but dident need one in the end
 
Got it for £94.50 off holdcraft in the end, cant beat original parts i suppose Cheers Brett.
 
DJSR said:
Got it for £94.50 off holdcraft in the end, cant beat original parts i suppose Cheers Brett.
Good price that is and free delivery as well
 
Although i'm changing the front left wheel bearing, i'm still concerned about the negative camber at the rear left! Would you recommend i change them to adjustable rear cambers?? i've seen them for £99, but not original honda.
 
edgeoftime said:
do not wish to be prophet of doom but have you done a HPI check? you could be sitting on a pre damaged motor.

use the proper people https://www.hpicheck.com/hpi_check.html, stay away from the amatuers you only get what you pay for. One more thing was the car from a dealer or private??
Bought the car private. I've had the car for 2 years now, everything is ok other than the pulling problem.
 
DJSR said:
Bought the car private. I've had the car for 2 years now, everything is ok other than the pulling problem.
yes we know that but was the problem there from the off or has it developed over time??
 
edgeoftime said:
yes we know that but was the problem there from the off or has it developed over time??
it always pulled since i bought it.
 
DJSR said:
Although i'm changing the front left wheel bearing, i'm still concerned about the negative camber at the rear left! Would you recommend i change them to adjustable rear cambers?? i've seen them for £99, but not original honda.
Forget about buying rear camber arms, you are wasting money, do you have any rear tyre wear? Although visually the wheel looks like it's at a funny angle on paper it is fine.

Have you checked the subframe for any signs of movement yet? If you've had this issue since getting the car then it's probably this. You need to get it back on the geometry ramp, get the car aligned, then loosen the subframe bolts so it can be moved slightly to try and get that camber/castor more equal. If the garage you took it to don't want to do this then WIM will.
 
if it has always been pulling then get a HPI check on it, at least this will identify whether or not the car is "straight or bent". if you get what I mean.
 
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