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Dear Gents,

I have a question about this matter. Who can specifically tell me the correct camber angle on the front wheels ? Also where and how easy can this camber angle be read? Any specs somewhere. Someone told me that the camber angle is made like this for accord because of the curves angle attack - correct ?

I will attached some photos (how i attach photos?) with my front tyres are 20k miles and please let me know if you see what I see !
The car is Accord 2003 - 2.0 petrol K20A6 - automatic - tyres are Falken ZE914 195/65/R15 same year of fabrication and were replaced in the same time/balanced/pressured.
The photos are only with the driver side tyre but both front tyres have the same dull/wear - no difference.

Now looknig to the photos of the tyre the interior of the tyre is in the right side and the exterior is in the left side. The dull/wear is from the interior through exterior. The difference seems to be like 1-1.2mm between the left and right side of the tyres. The tyres futures an asymmetric tread pattern if this makes any difference.

I will try to see if they are still correct balanced but I do not want to buy a new set of 2 tyres and after 1k-5k miles this wear to appear and get worse.

Thanks for your time gents and your input is appreciated.
 
Cris said:
(how i attach photos?)
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you need to upload the photos to a photo-hosting site on the web (such as photobucket) and then put a link to each photo in your post

photobucket etc have "share" links for this purpose, if the links don't work then you will need to upgrade/change your browser
 
You need a 4 wheel alignment on a Hunter machine.
These lazer alignment machines has preset software for different cars and will give you a before and after results if adjustment needs doing
 
yeah that can be seen.
If you right-click and "open image in new tab" you then get a different url
http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/ah313/cristian_munteanu1/WP_20150415_14_17_181_Pro_zpslalvnayf.jpg

put "[ img ]" before the url, and "[ /img ]" after the url (without spaces, I have to put spaces so that the forum software doesn't get confused), the forum software then displays the image

WP_20150415_14_17_181_Pro_zpslalvnayf.jpg


but what Brett says in #3 is the best advice
 
if your saying the tyres in your picture look like that after 20k miles.i think thats ok.you cant change the camber on the 7th gen without camber adjusters which are expensive.or fitting lowering springs...its normaly toe setting being out that eat tyres not camber..unless its a lot of camber like this / \ which you would see.i use -1.5 camber on the front.a little more wear but more cornering grip
 
ukcl9 said:
if your saying the tyres in your picture look like that after 20k miles.i think thats ok.you cant change the camber on the 7th gen without camber adjusters which are expensive.or fitting lowering springs...its normaly toe setting being out that eat tyres not camber..unless its a lot of camber like this / \ which you would see.i use -1.5 camber on the front.a little more wear but more cornering grip
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ukcl9, yes, those are photos with the tyres after 20k miles, not a joke. someone else told me the same thing, that the camber angle on front and rear axel can not be adjusted with default/factory steering/suspension and you need tuning elements for this to be adjusted. i do not have any kind of modification on car - factory default.

at a check up on a sliding/moving ramp to see if something is wrong/break nothing was seen wrong by the mechanic which i cant say it was quite experienced but as i and others can see a big play in a arm, toe ball joint no?

so you are suggesting that this wear from interior it came from the toe (which has a ball joint in end which holds the wheel and its connected on the engine side with the steering) settings? and the camber could be / \ and how i see, its an easy eye see? needs the car on the ramp? because the camber its fixed on 7th it can not be adjust only if you use special tuning parts or if the superior arm it starts playing in his ball joint ? tks a lot

also found an youtube video which I can not post the link here but it is saying about the toe how is eating the tire...and slowly I start to believe that my tires are wear off by the toe alignment instead of camber because is fixed and this can happen only if the upper arm ball joint which holds the fixed camber starts to play, correct ?
 
Hi Cris, To me the wear looks like general wear across the tyre with maybe the tyre pressures being too low causing the wear on the outer edges.
 
Cris said:
http://s1383.photobucket.com/user/cristian_munteanu1/media/WP_20150415_14_17_181_Pro_zpslalvnayf.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0

please tell if this can be seen?

do i need to replace any part before going to checks? to buy two new tyres and go for alignment and checks?

so where i can go for a good/cheap check and calibration near yeovil-taunton...cheers
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Might be an idea to put your issue onto www.wheels-inmotion.co.uk website and hopefully you'll get a response from a guy called Tony Bones, he'll tell you exactly what's going on and what is needed, he's an authority on all stuff to do with alignment, Suspension, tyres etc. but I would suggest as has already been mentioned to get a four wheel alignment, which will check camber, toe etc. also check your tyre pressures too, if you find a decent place that can do it , ask them to check for play in all suspension and steering parts before they do the alignment just to rule all that out.
Cheers Pete
 
next week on saturday i have appointment to change the front tyres with brand new ones. In the same time I will ask if they can check the old ones to see if they were balanced anymore.
Also I will ask to look for any play in suspension parts and check the alignment.
I will keep you posted.
 
Chris, If your wheels were out of balance you would feel shaking through the steering wheel and is very unlikely to cause tyre wear.

As in my previous post what pressures are you running the tyres at?

If your pressures and mechanicals are ok then the most probable cause is Toe, try running the flat of your hand around the corner of the tyre first one way and then the other and if it grabs your hand one way then your Toe is the likely cause but not by much if you say the tyres have done 20.000 miles.
 
Replaced the front wheel tyres and went for a 4 wheel alignment and the garage I went said they couldn't lose a bolt holding an arm with a bush inside. For sure not the upper arm. He said is in tolerance...but what I forgot to ask...if the wheels or the bushing in the back...because he started with the back.


Any advice..tks
 
so in my case I had the camber on back out of range and now its back after I have replaced the upper arm control. Also made the alignment and I need to replace on back the trailing arm because the toe is in like 2.5 on right and 3.5 on left and then again alignment.
 
I have similar uneven tyre wear on mine which I believe is caused by worn lower control arm bushes.
 
hi yeap your possibly right but an angle alignment can tell you immediately if this is the case or not. I had both camber-upper arm and now lower control arm which cant take the bolt out so I can change it.
 
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