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Camchain worries...yes, that old chestnut!

liamski

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Hi everyone,

just joined here today having just bought myself an August 2005 Accord i-CTDi with 100k on the clock. Have been reading with some dismay about the cam chain issues, not to mention the manifold and VGA issues. My main concern though is the cam chain as this has potentially disastrous consequences. The car is definitely not covered by any warranty for the cam chain issue now. It has less than the 125k cut off but more than the seven years. I'm now thinking about cam chain problem avoidance and mitigating potential high repair bills.

I read somewhere else today that apparently the cam chain issue is really a result of over-fuelling by the injectors which in turn degrades the oil prematurely leading to cam chain wear. My engine at the minute sounds fine, I think. Very quiet actually for a diesel. My questions are as follows... (hopefully some of you kind folks out there can impart some of your wisdom)

1. Is the cam chain issue inevitable at some time in the future? My plan was to run this car into the ground with perhaps another 100k over the next five or six years.
2. Am I more likely to avoid cam chain problems with more regular oil changes using the right top quality oil, say every 6k? I will also be doing quite a number of short journeys, under 5 miles at a time which the Honda says is 'high stress'.
3. If the chain does get noisy what are the chances of it actually breaking (anecdotal evidence is really what I'm asking about). Have there been many instances when the chain has actually broken and wrecked the engine? I could learn to live with a rattly cam chain if I had a fair degree of confidence it would not actually break.
4. Can the chain be removed without engine removal? I know it's a big job and have ready about the potential for injectors having to be removed too.

Ironically I went for the Accord instead of the Lexus IS220d as I did nothing but read of frequent head gasket issues with that engine which in most cases is terminal. I wonder am I getting worried about something that will probably not raise its ugly head. I'm just concerned that at some stage I may have to fork out huge sums of money on a car that's worth no more than £3,500.

I would immensely appreciate any feedback.

Cheers,

Liam
 
The Accord is very reliable if maintained correctly and if it doesn't sound noisy now, ***uming you stick to 0w30 oil there is no reason to think you will have problems.

Don't stress and just enjoy the car. The Lexus is nice but the D4D lump is the same unit fitted to the Avensis and is unimpressive and very agricultural.

The Honda unit is still one of the most refined units out there.
 
I would have to agree, plenty of decent oil changes and it should be fine. The chain rattled on my old one and was definitely getting worse but the car got written off before I fixed it. It rattled for a lot of miles without any problems though.
 
One or both of my chains has been a little noisy (at idle when hot) for a while, but doesn't seem to be getting worse. I guess it could suddenly go, but I'm not going to waste money on putting it right... it's an old car, so the high cost of this repair would probably be greater than the car's worth, especially if the injectors needed replacement.
 
Thanks for the feedback folks. I'll have to be meticulous about servicing, I guess. I think I'll undertake them at 6k. At least oil changes on the Accord are very easy, especially with the siphon tank..I much prefer this to having to get underneath and remove the bung etc..so messy. My other worry is the dual mass flywheel but that's a different story.

Thanks again
 
Hi Liam

I do a lot of short journeys and change my oil every 3-4 k / 6 months. It always looks very grotty when I change it. Those short journeys really take their toll on the oil. And I've got a petrol.

If you visit lubetechshop.co.uk you can get a decent 0W 30 at a great price. And the mods have a discount code which makes it even cheaper.

An extra few quid on oil changes has got to make more sense than a four figure sum for getting the chain done.
 
Regular oil changes and I would really fully drain from below to remove all contaminants. Not sure a syphon pulls all the oil out?
 
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