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littlebo reflash Q&A

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^ LOL likey, but .....

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freddofrog said:
I know a TOSSPOT when he writes nonsense.

"I curious what components are replaced and how you do it. " .....I don't expect Sergey or anyone else to tell you anything.

Why don't you email Honda and suss it yourself ....."Dear Mr Honda, I am curious about the ECU in my car, can you send me a circuit diagram of the ECU and a description, maybe I can return the favour in the future with a time travel machine I am making, it could become part of Honda Dreams"
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you are the one talking nonsenses with that tiny footprints image thing, i don't think you ever used a soldering iron in your life so why even try to argue something that you don't know about.

so did you check on 'the google' that tssop is an actual smd footprint ?

but yeah, it doesn't seem like any of this information will be forthcoming so...
 
toffee_pie said:
you are the one talking nonsenses with that tiny footprints image thing, i don't think you ever used a soldering iron in your life so why even try to argue something that you don't know about.

so did you check on 'the google' that tssop is an actual smd footprint ?
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"I have access to all the kit and being an electronic guru soldering tiny footprints is nothing new to me"
 
Steve, if you feel like deleting all the posts #113 to #126 go ahead without commenting. They don't add anything of any technical value to this thread.

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On the other hand, they are funny :) :wacko:
 
You're right Brian, they don't add anything of value :lol:, but they are quite funny.

The thing is, I know this isn't going to snowball into a serious argument with people getting fired up and eventually requiring lots of admin work, hiding posts and closing of threads, both of which always upset different people depending on which side of the argument they're on. Moderation/admin decisions are never going to please everybody, but things are nicer when we don't squeeze ourselves rapidly into the situation where moderation and admin has to take place... Calmness, patience, re-reading people's posts and re-reading your replies before hitting the button is always a good thing.

So, I'll leave them there for now Brian if that's cool with everyone?

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Now, Eric, you posting "I've got the key" video... Does that mean you now know how it's done? Have you spoken to Sergey? Do you have the key, the Secret? :lol:
 
No key yet, but I have made some electronic designs myself with companies i was with, using terminology that is obviously alien to people on this forum but moving on.

I am muelling over this mod....
 
toffee_pie said:
No key yet, but I have made some electronic designs myself with companies i was with, using terminology that is obviously alien to people on this forum but moving on.

I am muelling over this mod....
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I knew you were on a different planet to the rest of us :lol:

Is this the muelin ??

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If you do go for it Eric, please let us all know what the experience is like. Both dealing with UKCL9 and Littlebo as well as the install of the map itself. Also, if the car lives up to the claims after the map.
 
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toffee_pie said:
as for the flash, i will most likely meet this guy in devon, just bear with me.

what are the ramifications regarding insurance? will it take much of a hit?
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Would be interested in this as well. Will the insurers go crazy? Also do you need to tell them about the reflash? It's not a mechanical change, and I guess it's not easy for them or anyone else to prove you had a reflash on your car.

ukcl9 how did your insurer react?
 
bogdic said:
Would be interested in this as well. Will the insurers go crazy? Also do you need to tell them about the reflash? It's not a mechanical change, and I guess it's not easy for them or anyone else to prove you had a reflash on your car.

ukcl9 how did your insurer react?
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This question crops up a lot when it comes to re-maps. In the UK, if a car is modified in any way and an insurer is not notified, then this constitutes deception or something along those lines. If the car is involved in a fatality, the police would check the ECU. If the car is involved in a minor rear-end shunt (the modded car being the car doing the shunt) then the police won't bother to check the ECU but the insurer might. It's about risk and consequences. If one does get a new map in an ECU and does not notify the insurer and gets found out, then insurance henceforth will be very difficult and extremely expensive. Then the scenario gets into "what if I buy a car that the previous owner had a modified map", well then it would be messy to prove either way, but I would think that it would come to "did you ask when you bought it" and the seller being asked "did you say when you sold it". The seller would have to have said, otherwise they are selling by deception, and if they did not say, and if the car was involved in a fatality, and it was shown that the new map played a part, then the seller would probably be liable, and if the seller owns a house, they would lose it.

edit: it's the same as driving without insurance in years gone by. Before ANPR, and before cars could be seized on the spot by the police, a good percentage of people drove without insurance and hardly ever got caught unless they were involved in an accident. That was the same: risk and consequence. If they never had an accident and no-one ever found out (remember, no ANPR) then no consequence. Once they had an accident, if it was a minor shunt, then they paid for the repairs. If the police got involved, then they also got some points and a fine. These days, with ANPR, the car gets seized on the spot, they have to pay a recovery charge, they get points, they get a fine. Risk too high, consequences too high, result = very few uninsured drivers on the road .
 
As a rule of thumb, if it ain't stock, let your insurers know. Even if it's after market wheels the same size as what you've got. You have a clean conscience and nothing to worry about, and insurers are often more flexible than you might think.

I phoned my insurers and asked how much it would be to lower my car by 35-40mm and add a cold air intake. They said it will go on their record, but it's no additional charge. Result! My exhaust was 10% increase on my premium. That's hardly going to break the bank, so in all, talk to them, you may be pleasantly surprised. If you have problems, speak to our affiliate insurers in the Affiliates section. They specialise in modified vehicles and work favourably with TA members.
 
People still drive in the UK without any insurance i am pretty sure. Its a large population and some skangers will flaunt the law.

But I would not take the risk (of not telling my insurers). I am not sure this mod is for me, tbh. My car is pretty lively enough, I am hankering after a Legend tbh. The traffic here in Southampton is nuts and I would be better off with a bike tbh.

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As for me , car will never be lively enough, especially when you know that it can do better ! Dont worry, reflash for your bike coming soon ))))
 
update....ecu exchange programe now available...

cl9/cm2 MT only

pay a deposite of £100.try out the reflashed ecu for the a long weekend.if you like it.Then

1.send me your ecu to reflash.when reflashed you pay me £200 more.i wont charge postage costs...yet...but you have to pay to send my ecu back to me recorded delivery

2.you dont like the reflash...send me back my ecu(you pay the postage costs to me)and i refund you £90.i keep £10 for my poastage costs...so if you dont like the reflash.its costs you £20 to try it.

Note your immobilser will NOT work.remove ecu when not in use
 
As a Electronic Engineer myself, It is a bit steep. I don't have time for ripping up an ECU or getting a diagram, but essentially it will involve replacing (or flashing it with new firmware) an ASIC/MPU and/or some other components, then yes it is pretty steep but you are paying for someone's research. I am more than capable of reworking an ECU and could do so for far less than £300 but I don't have time and don't think my work place would appreciate Honda ECUs all over the place. I have not got a ECU diagram but I would be interested in seeing one and seeing how the comms is done between the Main Processor, whether its I2C or some CanBus protocol.

In any event I am probably out and would more likely sell my Accord for something else than do a remap, getting tool old for this craic.

Now Brian will come back with the usual smart comments about emailing Honda HQ for a Schematic and timing diagrams no doubt.
 
You alright Eric mate?
 
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