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TIMING CHAIN: A few questions if I may

nizman

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Hi everyone!

So my EX 2.2 TCDI 07 is rattling at 152K miles and im thinking its the timing chain...

Anyway, i may attempt to change this on my own as I know it will cost close to the value of the car to get done at a garage

Ive found multiple timing chain kits off ebay, but I have no scope for how much they are or should be going for (besides the ebay sellers value of them)

Because of the milage of the car im thinking to do both chains, tensioners, and guides? So I am looking for a whole kit and here is what ive found


What seems like an aftermarket kit
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HONDA-ACCORD-CRV-FRV-CIVIC-2-2DIESEL-CDTi-N22A1-N22A2-TIMING-CHAIN-OIL-PUMP-KIT/321988311665?hash=item4af7ffba71:g:WosAAOSwx6pYneon

Honda genuine kit?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TIMING-CHAIN-KIT-HONDA-CIVIC-CRV-ACCORD-DIESEL-N22A-2-2CDTI-GENUINE-HONDA/292350473751?hash=item4411723617:g:v-0AAOSwjkVZgIYE

So here are my questions!

Considering the price difference, has anyone fitted the lower priced kit? Or should I play it safe with genuine parts??

Also some silly newbie fitting questions, when doing the timing chain...

Does the oil need changing?
Do the injectors need taking out? If so, is this a pain? Also will they need replacing?

I have ordered myself a workshop manual but until then all ive got to go on is these awesome posts from you lovely people (read a few timing chain ones) and ofcourse, youtube haha

Thanks you for any replies and input!
 
Can answer this one:

Do the injectors need taking out? If so, is this a pain? Also will they need replacing?

Yes they do need taking out and and can be damaged if your not careful. Should not need replacing but while they are out getting them cleaned in an ultarsonic bath by a diesel specialist is well worth it.
 
Grayedout said:
Can answer this one:

Do the injectors need taking out? If so, is this a pain? Also will they need replacing?

Yes they do need taking out and and can be damaged if your not careful. Should not need replacing but while they are out getting them cleaned in an ultarsonic bath by a diesel specialist is well worth it.
Thanks! right haha that clears that up, ive actually been quoted £605 ish quid, they are saying its a estimate though, although the garage said it will not be genuine parts, but someone they trust with parts, but I will decide what to do once the manual arrives and if someone has used the cheaper ebay parts a little advice might be handy! cheers guys!
 
My feeling is genuine is always better, however on an 07 is the extra cost worth it?
I guess the well known parts suppliers are not going to be terrible quality, are you replacing all the parts? Chain x 2 tensionersx 2 and slippers?
 
It's a huge job. Injectors out, cam cover off, chain cover off, crank pulley removed, sump off, etc, all horribly fiddly jobs requiring an engine hoist and loads of bits to be removed (aircon pump, PAS pump, aux belt, engine mounts, yada, yada, yada).

I wouldn't bother on such an old car, it'll probably run for years without failing. Even if a chain breaks and does wreck the engine then these old Accords can be bought pretty cheaply on eBay (for little more than you've been quoted to have the chains replaced). Mine was only £750 two years ago and I was watching a nice-looking local '05 2.4 estate on eBay just before Xmas that went for just £520.
 
Does the chain need changed at a certain mileage or just when it gets noisy?
 
Normally when noisy.
The chain can wear more if the incorrect grade of oil has been used.
 
Can someone tell me how can i check if it needs replacment soon please? There're No noise or whatsoever..i'm only asking as got my cam cover out at moment

Is there any marks on tensioners to see or???
 
If there is no noise and if you can check the tensioner for any play or slack in the chain, I would leave it well alone.
 
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