What's new

Buying advice for a 2.2 CDTI 2004-2006 model, £2000

It is now! :p

I'm guessing you bought yours from a dealer? I would honestly expect to get a reasonable older 7th gen for under £2k if buying privately.

Or maybe everything costs a lot in the Luton area? I used to work nearby (Sandridge) and there are no bargains there!
 
HORSES FOR COURSES I SUPPOSE



PETROL
640px-Racing_boats_40_2012.jpg


DIESEL
640px-London_Woolwich_Tramp_steamer_geograph-3080372-by-Ben-Brooksbank.jpg


PETROL
640px-Spitfire_IIA_P7350.jpg


DIESEL
640px-Diesel_locomotives_ChME2-120.jpg



PETROL
640px-Williams_FW16B_and_FW15C_Donington_Grand_Prix_Collection.jpg


DIESEL
640px-1947InternationalHarvester.jpg
 
@Jon It was a private sale. I'd been looking religiously on Gumtree and Autotrader for about 3 weeks. I got pretty obsessed with it and the Accords do seem to hold some value - even the high mileage ones. To be honest though, my wanting one effected market value. Everyone wants one when I do and things are worth top dollar.... until I go to sell, then the market crashes and it's worth nothing. This has happened to every car I own! lol Maybe he will find a bargain now I have one ;)

I saw quite a few cheap/low mileage examples advertised 'oop norf', but I didn't have the heart to travel for hours to view cars in case they were rubbish.

Yep, just checked and there's a few bargains on auto trader already!
 
Dave G said:
You missed the Audi diesel Le Mans winner ;)
Apart from Audi, all other factory teams had withdrawn from Le Mans by 2005, because of cost, and Audi became impossible to beat.

In 2006, Audi put all their effort into a diesel in the LMP1 event to sell more TDI's. In 2007, Peugeot decided to enter a diesel in the LMP1 event for same reasons. So when a diesel races a diesel, it's hardly surprising that a diesel wins.

Note that in the LMP2 and GT events, AFAIK only private teams run cars .......which are petrols.

In short, "Le Mans" = "Audi". It would be like F1 without Ferrari/McLaren/Williams and just Mercedes. That's why F1 decided to limit expenditure, otherwise it would have ended up like Le Mans. I'd rather eat raw liver than go to Le Mans.
 
@freddofrog very funny :D
@hobnob very unlucky, sorry about that, I know the feeling :unsure: . However, if anything goes wrong within 6 months of buying from a trader you can just force them to repair it... no need for a warranty (except for wear and tear items that is)
@toffee_pie I think your point about diesel repair risks and costs is fair (as also pointed out by hobnob), except that most people don't pay over a grand each and EVERY year in repairs... you pay well over a grand a year for no more real speed imho. 5 years = 5 grand, wow :ph34r:
 
do you know how much all them things that can go wrong in diesels cost to fix? and there are many, check the diesel faults. The milage will be high, warranty will be zilch, the probability of getting a fault based on sods law and diesel/ petrols faults in general is going to be pretty high too.

Petrols and diesels are a total different ball game to drive, have you even driven a petrol k24 even?. Diesels are great for low end torque but the petrols can rev far higher and have far better refinement. I think this is already done to death here.

but you already made up your mind, so what's keeping you making a purchase and sticking up pics.
 
would sooner have a lobotomy than get a diesel. I just paid little over 2k for my car and seeing how well it is now I think it was a bargain. 500quid or so on boot joints is much better than putting up with the beautiful list below had i got a diesel, and that's just since the turn of the year.

I took my car for an alignment check a few weeks back and it was spot on, even after driving in Cambodian quality roads in Ireland for a few months. Car runs sweet as a nut, doesn't burn a drop of oil, handles fantastic and is much more fun than worrying what will go wrong next.

https://flic.kr/p/njuyEF

https://flic.kr/p/mgUMJA

>>>>>>

Accord Diesel broken!
Started by manparis, 17 Apr 2014 1 2
27 replies
236 views
Accord Diesel broken! - last post by manparis
manparis
Today, 06:49 PM
New Replies
Eml On(p0340) Hard To Start
Started by Amberci, 09 Apr 2014 2004 Accord 2.2i CTDI
19 replies
158 views
Eml On(p0340) Hard To Start - last post by Jon_G
Jon_G
Today, 05:58 PM
New Replies
Bought a high mileage car which needs TLC - clutch/gearbox, power steering, cracked manifold, whistling sound problems
Started by Udai, 11 Apr 2014
10 replies
208 views
Bought a high mileage car which needs TLC - clutch/gearbox, power steering, cracked manifold, whistling sound problems - last post by Udai
Udai
19 Apr 2014
New Replies
Alternator or Battery on the way out - tests.
Started by Jamesy_UK, 15 Apr 2014
10 replies
84 views
Alternator or Battery on the way out - tests. - last post by Jon_G
Jon_G
17 Apr 2014
New Replies
Error code P0193 Fuel Pressure High Input
Started by vitamin, 11 Apr 2014
16 replies
114 views
Error code P0193 Fuel Pressure High Input - last post by F6HAD
F6HAD
12 Apr 2014
New Replies
Central locking playing up
Started by GAZB, 08 Apr 2014
0 replies
56 views
Central locking playing up - last post by GAZB
GAZB
08 Apr 2014
New Replies
battery problem
Started by ukaccord, 27 Sep 2011 1 2
23 replies
1,125 views
battery problem - last post by botty67
botty67
08 Apr 2014
New Replies
My car let me down ...
Started by Andrew W, 14 Mar 2014
14 replies
252 views
My car let me down ... - last post by F6HAD
F6HAD
27 Mar 2014
New Replies
broken down at side of road
Started by Jamie91, 20 Feb 2014 1 2 3
HOT 49 replies
674 views
broken down at side of road - last post by Jon_G
Jon_G
25 Mar 2014
New Replies
Turbocharger cartridge
Started by ziggy, 24 Mar 2014
4 replies
99 views
Turbocharger cartridge - last post by ziggy
ziggy
25 Mar 2014
New Replies
New belt fitted same old noise
Started by markymark1, 22 Mar 2014
9 replies
142 views
New belt fitted same old noise - last post by Jon_G
Jon_G
24 Mar 2014
You posted in this topic
Replacement of engine chains
Started by Jon_G, 22 Mar 2014 timing, chain, chains, tensioner and 1 more...
9 replies
190 views
Replacement of engine chains - last post by Shadow
Shadow
23 Mar 2014
Camchain worries...yes, that old chestnut!
Started by liamski, 24 Feb 2014
9 replies
279 views
Camchain worries...yes, that old chestnut! - last post by Salim
Salim
22 Mar 2014
dvd player question
Started by markymark1, 11 Mar 2014
19 replies
213 views
dvd player question - last post by HuskyMan
HuskyMan
18 Mar 2014
SatNav
Started by Aston, 18 Mar 2014
1 reply
96 views
SatNav - last post by Aston
Aston
18 Mar 2014
Injector Refitted - Fails to Start
Started by Shadow, 26 Jan 2014 1 2
24 replies
444 views
Injector Refitted - Fails to Start - last post by Shadow
Shadow
15 Mar 2014
Pre-face lift hot starting problem.....
Started by Simon1602, 15 Mar 2014
3 replies
85 views
Pre-face lift hot starting problem..... - last post by F6HAD
F6HAD
15 Mar 2014
faults: p2004 and p1401
Started by kamil10, 01 Dec 2013 1 2
HOT 36 replies
874 views
faults: p2004 and p1401 - last post by shaun75
shaun75
14 Mar 2014
Driveshaft wobble- but which one?
Started by SCOTTP999, 21 Feb 2014
8 replies
162 views
Driveshaft wobble- but which one? - last post by cpgaccord
cpgaccord
11 Mar 2014
jumping out of 5th gear
Started by markymark1, 08 Mar 2014
13 replies
113 views
jumping out of 5th gear - last post by markymark1
markymark1
09 Mar 2014
Service question.
Started by markymark1, 04 Mar 2014
6 replies
124 views
Service question. - last post by Salim
Salim
04 Mar 2014
Injector leak back results(hot start problem)
Started by spud, 10 Jul 2013
8 replies
655 views
Injector leak back results(hot start problem) - last post by F6HAD
F6HAD
03 Mar 2014
Problem starting hot and cold
Started by MarkJS, 30 Nov 2013 1 2 3
HOT 42 replies
1,319 views
Problem starting hot and cold - last post by F6HAD
F6HAD
25 Feb 2014
CTDi sudden loss of power on motorway
Started by alloy36, 22 Feb 2014
6 replies
220 views
CTDi sudden loss of power on motorway - last post by alloy36
alloy36
23 Feb 2014
Warning light and ABS kicking in?
Started by Mutley_m, 17 Feb 2014
idles forever, but refuses to rev
Started by mootch, 05 Feb 2014
11 replies
205 views
idles forever, but refuses to rev - last post by mootch
mootch
16 Feb 2014
Tourer tailgate power lock not working
Started by Stu123, 07 Feb 2014 tourer tailgate locks power k
6 replies
157 views
Tourer tailgate power lock not working - last post by Jon_G
Jon_G
15 Feb 2014
Possible Alternator noise? - Link to Vid
Started by richard1983, 30 Jan 2014
12 replies
235 views
Possible Alternator noise? - Link to Vid - last post by Stu123
Stu123
14 Feb 2014
boot lid question
Started by markymark1, 13 Feb 2014
7 replies
125 views
boot lid question - last post by markymark1
markymark1
13 Feb 2014
VSA Codes
Started by paulsco, 05 Feb 2014
0 replies
120 views
VSA Codes - last post by paulsco
paulsco
05 Feb 2014
Couple of questions
Started by markymark1, 03 Feb 2014
4 replies
147 views
Couple of questions - last post by markymark1
markymark1
04 Feb 2014
Clutch slipping, DMF required too?
Started by Nippy Nipster, 28 Nov 2013
13 replies
705 views
Clutch slipping, DMF required too? - last post by Mutley_m
Mutley_m
30 Jan 2014
2007 Accord CTDI 2.2 Sport
Started by Andymac, 16 Dec 2013 1 2
21 replies
880 views
2007 Accord CTDI 2.2 Sport - last post by F6HAD
F6HAD
29 Jan 2014
Bad starting and ticking noise from cold on 04 ctdi
Started by GAZB, 18 Jan 2014
18 replies
243 views
Bad starting and ticking noise from cold on 04 ctdi - last post by GAZB
GAZB
21 Jan 2014
Occasional Lumpy running with usual hesitation
Started by Neil Pascoe, 09 Jan 2014
11 replies
349 views
Occasional Lumpy running with usual hesitation - last post by F6HAD
F6HAD
10 Jan 2014
Three Yellow Lights
 
Yes, but people rarely sign up to a forum to say "Hi, I have a fully working car and thought I'd simply sign up to chat to like minded people" (although that's why I signed up if memory serves). Most people sign up with "Hi, I have a problem...". So the forum will be littered with fault threads by nature.

Now consider how many diesel Accords you see on the road compared to Petrol and how many members here drive diesel compared to petrol. Now consider that in terms of proportionality and how many fault threads there are for diesel and petrol respectively... Diesel will appear unreliable in this situation, but we don't know that it's a true reflection of real word situations.

Let's say the TA members with problematic iCDTIs could be as little as 10% of the Diesel Accord marketshare. This would put the Accord diesel in a positive light if anything. And when you consider the K24s willingness to eat it's clutch, warp it's drive shafts and suffer other things such as electrical niggles (especially the Exec spec such as mine), I reckon that whether you buy a petrol or a diesel you're likely to encounter something fairly needing doing within the year of the purchase, which ever Accord you get...

In fact, what ever car you get full stop! After all they are generally 1.5 tons of moving metal, plastic and rubber with many thousands of tiny explosions happening inside them every minute, travelling at unnatural speeds... :blink:

Edit: Jon posted while I was typing, this is addressed to the Eric copy and paste of the Diesel Fault board ;)
 
Steve if you've got time, would it be possible to move all the "argument" posts to a new thread in general chat called "diesel vs petrol debate" (seems a shame to be littering the OPs thread with stuff he doesn't want to read I guess) ?

Or is it ok to continue it here ?

Or should we just forget it (I'm ok to do that too) ?
 
I hope the OP buys a car soon so we can finish this.

Different cars suit different peoples budgets and lifestyles and we all choose them for our own reasons. And they all break at some point whether they were cheap or expensive.
 
I have no problem with diesel vs petrol debate, I enjoy it I'm afraid!
My current car is for sale, once that goes I can start shopping properly ;)
 
Jon_G said:
You need a new hobby Eric.

In 80k miles/6 years I've spent £93 on repairs to my diesel (excluding normal service items)... I win.

If I was frugal about spending money and driving consisted purely of saving as much money as i could down to and including buying a diesel, maybe that's something i would do. But I drive to enjoy the ride.

something I can certainly do in my Accord.

alas, I think the enjoyment's gone out of motoring now, with people fretting how many miles they get on a tank more than anything else
 
freddofrog said:
Steve if you've got time, would it be possible to move all the "argument" posts to a new thread in general chat called "diesel vs petrol debate" (seems a shame to be littering the OPs thread with stuff he doesn't want to read I guess) ?

Or is it ok to continue it here ?

Or should we just forget it (I'm ok to do that too) ?

I asked him a few times what has he done and what diesel beauty has he got, it seems he is just starting his purchase now

*sigh
 
I haven't read the thread from the beginning, I can guess how it started, didn't want to cringe at Eric's wordsmith skills and tact LOL
 
This is what I imagine when I see Eric & Jon arguing:

typing.jpg


It does make me smile...

So with that in mind, I won't delete them for now as they stand for good evidence on how easily Eric and Jon wind each other up for future reference, next time an argument breaks out ;) .

But shall we draw a line under things now as it is rather silly? Of course, if you both didn't need to have the last word, this could have been to bed months ago :lol: .

Eric, stop taunting Jon. Jon, stop stooping to Eric's taunts and let's all be friends :D . Different (engine) strokes for different folks. Some people like Diesel, some like Petrol. Some people like Marmite, others hate it. Some people like Northern girls, some like Asian girls. Hell, some even like girls who used to be boys. People are all different, people are all strange, but it's what makes living so interesting.

How about any further argumentative posts get deleted? Is that cool?

Ok, so here's the line:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Any arguments from this point onward will be deleted, so don't waste your keyboard skills ;) .
 
I've just read it all from the beginning, not as bad as i expected, in fact not bad at all, good marks to everyone involved ;)

Only one point to correct, a mistake which everyone fell into (and Top Gear do this as well). Torque from engine is not torque at wheels: there's a gearbox and diff between the engine and the wheels. If two engines reach more-or-less the same speed in each gear, then we need to look at the ratio of engine-revs to speed, to compare the torque at the wheels.
 
Valid point Brian, but please don't give them any more scope/ammunition to drag this one out :lol:
 
I honestly don' see anu harm in any of the posts, I think Eric's are valid, just wrong in my opinion (and only my opinion).
I also think it is good to hammer out all the pros and cons, that way I am more confident when viewing and buying.... which was the whole point of joining this forum.
Thanks.
Just need to wait for the bait to bite of my overpriced car sale!
 
jamie000 said:
I honestly don' see anu harm in any of the posts, I think Eric's are valid, just wrong in my opinion (and only my opinion).
I also think it is good to hammer out all the pros and cons, that way I am more confident when viewing and buying.... which was the whole point of joining this forum.
Thanks.
Just need to wait for the bait to bite of my overpriced car sale!
Make your own decisions did you go to a forum to ask if your wife was a good runner??
 
edgeoftime said:
Make your own decisions did you go to a forum to ask if your wife was a good runner??
Of course. Doesn't everybody?

And for advice about the strange whining noise.

[/sexistpigmodeoff]
 
An awful thread... I wish I had never contributed to it, and I apologise for doing so. In my opinion, a good deal of it should be immediately deleted, as it doesn't help TypeAccord's reputation.

More needs to be done to stamp out anti-diesel trolling, it does annoy me and I will respond. Someone has to.
 
Stevearcade said:
Valid point Brian, but please don't give them any more scope/ammunition to drag this one out :lol:
I've run out of likes again :( (while I'm typing: the "ammo" would be dud in a certain egg LOL)
 
Top