Hondata Flashpro can't tune the pre 05 ECU's, it's the same issue we had - no rewritable EPROM. Somebody posted a while back suggesting that XO Power could do it and he'd booked in, but he never came back to update us so i'm still ***uming he couldn't/didn't do it.
Steve - whether the 2005 onwards ECU is retro fittable to the pre 05 is a question I still don't know the answer to and wanted to find out on my brother 2003 Type S, but we never bothered pursuing it.
I believe the plugs are the same, just the internals are different but Dave at Elite was a little sceptical and suggested that it might not be doable. He would need to see the schematics of both to understand if it would work.. or you could just try it and see what happens I guess.
The pre-facelift can be remapped, no question about it. I spoke to Gunther at XO Power about my 2003 Type S and he said it can be done and he has done it.
As I am in Northern Ireland I checked around the tuners here and found one that can to it - Auto Tune in Ballymena. They took out the ECU and emailed Piasini Engineering the serial code form the chip and they confirmed it could me mapped. As I understand Auto Tune use a tuning system developed by Piasini in Italy - check out their website and you can see their figures for the Accord Type S: www.piasiniengineering.com/
I intend to book my car in for the remap in mid-November and i'm getting a K&N typhoon intake installed at the same time. Getting pre- and post- dyno runs to see how much more power / torque the engine makes and will post the results for anyone who is interested.
If you want to see a typical post- map dyno graph check out the Hondata website: http://www.hondata.com/reflash_tsx.html It is for the Acura TSX (American equivalent of our Accord) but it is essentially the same engine. Some interesting info on tuning the 2.4 here also: http://www.hondata.com/tuning_the_tsx.html
Hope that helps.
Gunther did come back onto another accord forum and confirm that he can both all CL9's including the prefacelifts buddy, so you've got a sure fire option there. In other news, my 07-08 tsx ecu has cleared customs and should be with me next week!
Nobody is saying pre facelift cannot be done, I am saying that pre 2005 cannot be done.
It is actually Christian Piasini who has confirmed this. That's who Gunther uses and we (Elite Remaps) are also connected to him. It's possible the serial number you sent him is from an 05 ECU.
Auto Tune took the ECU out of my 2003 Accord Type S and emailed the serial number on the chip to Piasini. They confirmed that it could be remapped. That's all I know. I can't see how it would be a 2005 ECU as the car is completely standard and this hasn't been replaced to my knowledge.
I did specifically ask Gunther about a 2003 car and he told me that the only difference between the 2003 and 2005 ECUs was that the chips were manufactured by different companies.
Once Auto Tune actually try to map it I will let you all know if it works.
Gunther knows about the 2 different ecu's in both facelift and prefacelift CL9's. He confirmed that he can do both.
Right... and round we go again :blink: :lol:
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