I agree mate, these cars aren't worth much more than £2k in real terms, and I don't see the point in spending well over 10% of the value of the car on something that doesn't give 10% improvement. In the original thread that Steve locked, in #65, I said "overall, that gives about 10% increase in acceleration": and that is it, all the rest about "rev hang" and "dbw lag" and "mpg improvement" were also discussed in the locked thread.ToothlessDrunk said:So , is this map worth £300 quid , if I spent £300 would I feel it was money well spent or will I wish I had only spent £200 .
they might not bother where you are, but in this country, if death or serious injury occurs, then it is likely that insurers will get an ECU checked, see my #139 in the original thread that Steve lockedlittlebo said:Insurers don't have dynos and no any service or inspection can find out the reflash since its based on oem FW. . I'm not shure if keeping silence is against the law or something like that, we don't have such practice here, if so, then it's better to inform em, if you don't have to tell about that margin mod - just smile then ). anyway, I always advice to drive safely and take care bout all other ppl on the road.
littlebo said:3700 is exactly what Brian calculated and what I see in mfactory calc. 4500 in 1-2 gear shift we see with stock revs, with reflash it's close to 5k. discussion was hot and I thought a lot about that effect and I guess it's not a sensor lag or bug. it's more like engine torque is big enough to push clutch to slip a lil and wheels are also slip slightly at hard shifting, that bumps revs and they aren't equal to real speed. I'm gonna catch MT car and record few hi res logs to look more deep in this effect coz timeframe is too short to judje this by taho readings.
Thanks for support and info !
AB-SO-LUTELYF6HAD said:I get it mate and actually agree with you. I also don't spend a lot of time arguing with dyno plots as it's not as objective as people think and comparing one plot to another from a different dyno tells you nothing but that it's two plots from different dynos.
My point is just around showing the effect of the remap without mods and then build it up, both on the same car under the same climatic conditions etc and on the same dyno.
It will take some effort but then you will have a good reference point to refer people to who are interested in your product and you may also find some tweaks you can make to your map to improve it further.
Indeed. Can we not use that expression. It only ever fuels fires.Jon_G said:@Crispy - I feel I must reply that people disagreeing with you doesn't make them 'haters'... why can't people accept disagreement without it becoming personal?