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Exhaust fumes/smell in cabin I-CTDI

Just a quick update. Got mine done at the local dealers under extended warranty. They wanted a copy of the service book, I guess to send off to Honda UK, but didn't mention anything about the last two services I'd done myself. Surprising how much more drivable it now is at lower RPM and when pulling away.
 
My brothers Accord Tourer has just been diagnosed with the dreaded cracked manifold by Stratstone Honda in Leeds. It's out of warranty (04 plate with 135k). Does anyone know of any specialists in the Leeds/Bradford area that have experience of doing the repair, and approx how much? SH quoted him £900!!.

Thanks fellas.
 
Your luck just came in

http://typeaccord.co.uk/forum/topic/8031-7th-gen-ictdi-cracked-manifold-repairs/
 
I've just started experiencing exhaust smells inside the cabin and yesterday a slight blowing from the engine side. 2.2 cdti has done 100k miles but is over 8 years old. FSH at the same Honda dealer; been in touch and am waiting on a response. Phoned Honda UK to ask about warranty but they were clueless on details.
 
dcrobertson68 said:
I've just started experiencing exhaust smells inside the cabin and yesterday a slight blowing from the engine side. 2.2 cdti has done 100k miles but is over 8 years old. FSH at the same Honda dealer; been in touch and am waiting on a response. Phoned Honda UK to ask about warranty but they were clueless on details.
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Did you get any response i think i might have the same issue smelling fumes while driving and notice some fumes coming off at the left side near the light when it was dark today
 
dcrobertson68 said:
I've just started experiencing exhaust smells inside the cabin and yesterday a slight blowing from the engine side. 2.2 cdti has done 100k miles but is over 8 years old. FSH at the same Honda dealer; been in touch and am waiting on a response. Phoned Honda UK to ask about warranty but they were clueless on details.
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Just contacted Honda UK, direct and also via my local dealer.
Car has 98k miles but is 7 years and 2 months old. Warranty not covered, by 2 measly months :-(
In fairness it was a pretty good deal to extend by this margin and just bad timing!

Spoke to dealer and labour is @ £360.00 (3.2 hours) and £320.00 for the manifold kit, all inc vat.
Ebay dealer sells one for £305.00 plus postage, so seems to be the going rate.
Second hand dealers are well aware of the issues, but I found one and i am going to buy a used unit (s/steel option) from CRV or Civic (***ured these do fit) for £162.00 and get local mechanic to fit it.
May take him longer but will be around £200.00. A hefty saving...
 
Got my car checked by Honda. Although I've experienced fumes in the cabin and in the engine bay, Honda couldn't find a fault.! Fahad could smell it, but the techs didn't notice anything wrong. To be fair, I haven't smelt any fumes in the cabin lately either. There's still some exhaust sound amplification in the cabin, though, but even that has quietened down a bit. Weird.
 
Wouldn't worry about it then mate, could have just been fumes due to the sticking EGR valve coming back up the system at the time. Or just fumes in general as it was very cold.
 
F6HAD said:
Wouldn't worry about it then mate, could have just been fumes due to the sticking EGR valve coming back up the system at the time. Or just fumes in general as it was very cold.
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To quote Jenson "The car is beautiful and she is quick"
 
;) Glad you are enjoying buddy.
 
would it be possible to hear the manifold crack?

the reason i ask is because on friday just 2 minutes after leaving work i heard a crack.... since then im getting a fume smell in the cabin!!!!!

the thing is my manifolds were replaced 3.5 years ago under warranty. the car is an 04 with 133k on the clock now....

do i have a case if it is the manifolds again? could it be anything else?
 
Mattlee, this sounds exactly the same as my situation - 04 with 132k on the clock.

Our car had it's manifold replaced at 70k miles about the same time as yours (before we bought it).
We're now getting really bad smell of fumes in the cabin, especially on start-up and when left sitting idling.

I just posted another thread asking if people thought Honda would cover the cost to replace seeing as this would be the 2nd one to crack.
I am going to bring it in to our local Honda garage to be checked, as we also could have a leaky injector which could be the culprit.
Hope its not both, or this could get expensive :eek:
 
I took my car down to a dealer for a second look at the manifold. Nothing. It seems that the waft of fumes are only noticeable on a cold start-up, then it stops leaking. I think it's my EGR valve sticking, or something around there.
 
thank you all for advises. I'm sorted now
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Honda dealer tried do say something like "well, i't depends on a car age" and so one. but in the end they doing it for free and I got another car from them for that time :) any other thing I can replace under warranty as my car will be 7 yrs in may?
 
I wanted to post to tell about my recent experience re a cracked manifold.

I have only recently bought the car (53 plate with 107000 miles ) and after reading this forum suspected the worst. I had my self diagnosis confirmed by Holdcroft Honda, who also quite rightly informed me it was out of the warranty period (by 3 years!). I made a call to Honda UK to double/triple check that this was the case, and they said that although it was out, they would get back within 3 business days to let me know if they could help at all. Within two days I had a voicemail from Holdcroft saying that Honda had been in touch and were contributing to the cost of the manifold, and that they would contribute to the labour costs! This reduced the price by very nearly 50%.

The job has been done now, and the car is great. I was so pleased with the service I got from Holdcroft, although I'm essentially just a random person who recently bought a 10 year old banger, I was made to feel like a valued customer, as though I'd just bought a £30k new car from them. And I'm really pleased with Honda UK too for the same reasons.

Brilliant. :)
 
Fantastic news man. 50% discount on a ten year old car with 107K on the clock. Can't argue at that. Nice one Honda.
 
I have read over the post and the general pattern is that Honda will honour the warranty uner health and safety, however in my case i bought my accord from my employer last year and found out it had a cracked manifold, honda looked at it and confirmed, i have FSH but it is done by my companies own in house garage which is a vat reg company in its self, my honda dealer in bedford said that honda refused to honour the warranty under a loyalty issue as the car had only been serviced by honda once, got a £900+ quote, i have since passed the 125k mark and still have not had it done, 4 kids etc lol, (which i cannot carry in the car) i feel a bit aggrieved as it appears that everyone else had thiers done either free or subsidised by honda, have i been fobbed off!!!!!

Its a 2007 cdti
 
Have you written directly to Honda UK? Explain the situation to them and see what they say.
 
budredz said:
I have read over the post and the general pattern is that Honda will honour the warranty uner health and safety, however in my case i bought my accord from my employer last year and found out it had a cracked manifold, honda looked at it and confirmed, i have FSH but it is done by my companies own in house garage which is a vat reg company in its self, my honda dealer in bedford said that honda refused to honour the warranty under a loyalty issue as the car had only been serviced by honda once, got a £900+ quote, i have since passed the 125k mark and still have not had it done, 4 kids etc lol, (which i cannot carry in the car) i feel a bit aggrieved as it appears that everyone else had thiers done either free or subsidised by honda, have i been fobbed off!!!!!

Its a 2007 cdti
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My experience is not dissimilar to this.

I contacted Honda UK twice by telephone, and subsequently they contacted me to ask about my experience of dealing with them (which I used as an opportunity to appeal to their better nature.) The outcome has been the same each time; that they are not prepared to offer anything towards the repair. I did intend to put my request in writing but I shelved it (gave up,) ***uming the response would be the same. This was over a year ago now I think.

It's interesting how some people are apparently getting out of warranty ***istance when others are not.

In my case, I bought my '54 tourer as an approved car from a Honda dealer and did have it serviced 3 times at Honda (they failed to stamp the book on one of those, they apologised though so that makes it all ok...... ). Since then the servicing has been done independently. Irritatingly, by the time I'd read this thread and learned that the fumes smell was a fault with the car, I'd missed the warranty extension date by less than 2 months!

I think I will write to them and try again (I'll let you know the outcome, of course.)

On a slightly different note, can anyone say what other side effects can occur with this cracked manifold? The smell of fumes does not seem to have got worse over time but an issue has come to light with throttle response and power delivery, after a recent 700 mile round trip. If I'm light on the gas pedal, the car seems to respond normally, turbo spools up, car pulls. If I give it more gas pedal the car doesn't respond or pull until it gets up to speed, then starts pulling. There is no stuttering (like the problem I had which was fixed with a new fuel filter,) unusual noise, smoking or anything else apparently wrong, other than it's slightly heavy on fuel - which I put down to cracked manifold. I'm not sure I've explained that very well but I'm wondering if this could be to do with this manifold?
 
Got the dreaded cracked manifold here too but its older than 7 years but only 85k miles - not serviced by Honda so they won't do anything.

Got dealer to ask and then I also tried with customer service but the answer was still no.

How much to weld?
 
Dunno how much the weld would be mate - perhaps one of regulars will answer.

Failing that get it down to a garage and quote.
 
have 2004 honda accord 2.2 i-cdti experienced fume smell in cabin. searched forum and discovered manifold issue took to honda and they quoted price. I then contacted Honda UK who said because car was over 7 years not covered by warranty but it is under 125k and good service history. they asked for service book copy and got back to us and contacted my local dealer and did for half the cost. soo definitely worth contacting honda uk and unfortunately depends on dealership
 
HI folks, new owner here.
07 Ex with 162k, getting the exhaust fumes when stationary. I don't have any noticible sound like a blow out so i'm thinking it might be a leaking injector seal or EGR valve?
My question would be - do ALL manifolds crack or would it be possible to have one last?
 
mr2 super gt said:
HI folks, new owner here.
07 Ex with 162k, getting the exhaust fumes when stationary. I don't have any noticible sound like a blow out so i'm thinking it might be a leaking injector seal or EGR valve?
My question would be - do ALL manifolds crack or would it be possible to have one last?
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Early i-CTDi manifolds were a 2 -part unit welded together... it's this weld that cracks and causes the leakage of exhaust gases. Later manifolds were casted as a single unit. I'd have expected yours to be the later type, but I'm not sure. Fumes and noise can also be caused by an injector coming loose. Leaking exhaust manifolds are easier to spot on a cold start, where fumes can be seen rising up the rear of the engine when starting. Leaking injectors cause oil staining at their base which can be seen with the engine cover removed.

Welcome to TA Nick.
 
Hi Jon,
Thanks. The manifold has a 3 bolt heat shield. Was there 2 different '3 bolt' manifolds. I will check under the engine cover ASAP.
The Honda dealer who did all the servicing is no longer a Honda dealer (now KIA) and all they did was stamp the service book. Ive no indication as to what work if anything major was done like a new clutch, DMF or manifold was done. I've emailed them but no reply so will get on the blower.
 
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